Halloween WW - Costume Party (Game Thread)

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EVILS: 7
d2 (59):
lynched: nez - nurse - V
wolf killed: herbie - dracula - N
leaves because of win: zurvan - blade - N
pumpkin killed: luckay - vader (target switcher) - W
newted: dan
arrested: monk
made queen: vr

EVILS: 6
d3 (78):
lynched (queen VR): chuck norris - minor pumpkin - V/N
pumkin killed: mets - good prositute - V
wolf killed: GT1T - sparrow (one time vig) - V
newted: VR, tarheels
arrested: boiler

d4 (104):
lynched (king chuckles - made king during day): dazbag - cop - V
wolf killed: epicurus
vigilante killed (MDD): pyramid (evil prostitute) - W
pumpkin killed: MDD - leonardo (one time vig) - V
newted: books, mark

EVILS: 5
d5 (140):
lynched: fmxda - minor pumpkin - V/N
killed (pumpkin + wolves): RT - Good witch - V
made unlynchable - boiler
newted - nich

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Conclusions:
1) There was a wolfkill and a pumpkinkill each nigh. Since wolfs can switch the killer we can only draw conclusions about the pumpkin.
Pumpkin cannot be (unless minor pumpkins had kills or there are other pumpkins):
dan, monk, boiler, vr, tarheels, books, mark

2) Newtings (assuming there is one good and one evil newter):
dan was newted by the evil team since RT said his ability didn't work n1
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DAY 1 reread
Possible seer hints from killed/newted people:

Dan:
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I don't know about the dustin read, but what scott just said about mets makes me think they're both villagers.

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Could be interpreted as a village peek of mets (actually both but the way it's phrased reads more like "I know mets is a villager that is why scott sounds villgerish")

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I'm gonna vote pyramid scheme. He's made two posts and has made two votes offering basically zero reason. He was far more vocal

d1 in the other two games I saw him play.

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I would feel a lot better voting him if you weren't....

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KM gets on my village list.

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Can be interpreted as dan having peeked her

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Scott's firmly planted on my village list.

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Could be interpreted as dan having peeked Scott

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Chuck here's the reason for my village read on JennFox:

1. She's playing loose and care-free. In her other two games, she did not play like that. Especially the wolf game.

2. This specific early game quote by her:
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lol


i promise im not evil! why does everyone always think that?? i am pro-village this game. my first time ever, actually, since my first game i was evil and my

second game i was neutral.


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That's real emotion being expressed there. As a wolf, she never makes that post.

Hence, I said I am leaning village on JennFox.

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Catching up, this is a good post and Mark lands on my village list.

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Yet another possible dan peek.


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yes everyone, herbie is much more villagery than i am this game
[head assplodes]

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As a matter of fact, yes.

(Well, I hope it's fact.)

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Yet another possible dan peek (herbie = villager)

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Chuck here's the reason for my village read on JennFox:

1. She's playing loose and care-free. In her other two games, she did not play like that. Especially the wolf game.

2. This specific early game quote by her:
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lol


i promise im not evil! why does everyone always think that?? i am pro-village this game. my first time ever, actually, since my first game i was evil and my

second game i was neutral.


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That's real emotion being expressed there. As a wolf, she never makes that post.

Hence, I said I am leaning village on JennFox.

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Catching up, this is a good post and Mark lands on my village list.

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On second thought, no he doesn't. Even though I think he's right about Jenn, I think Mark is capable of making this post as a wolf. So he remains in the

"undecided" category.

Getting closer to finishing my reread.

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dan peeked mark = not likely anymore

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Man the last 150-200 posts is a lot of nothing really. Either that or after the first 400 posts my brain turned to mush.

Anyway here's what I have. I will provide further explanation if needed.

LEAN VILLAGE
Herbie
VR
KM
JennFox
Luckay
Pyramid
Chuck Norris
Zurvan
Mark

WTFBBQ
Books
MDD

LEAN WOLF
Jgunnip
Mets
FMXDA
Epi
Tarheel?

Vote Jgunnip

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Huge list makes seer dan unlikely

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I've decided who I would like to silence.

Herbie must die.

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Annnnnnnnnnnnnnndddddd OFF the village list you go.

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VR,

I don't know if you're a wolf or a villager, but I know if you want Herbie dead, you're not helping the village.

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Dan retracting his VR = villa

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VR,

I don't know if you're a wolf or a villager, but I know if you want Herbie dead, you're not helping the village.

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this is so dumb

im leaning villager on herbie too, despite his early attacks of me, but making a blanket statement like this about herbie when he attacked me vehemently sort

of randomly and now says has backed off do to his misremembering my role as bradshaw, when that bradshaw wasnt brought up till hours after he first attacked

me ...

just saying that herbie is not an obvious villager.

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If you were me, you'd know Herbie was a villager.

And I'll leave it at that.

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possible herbie = villa peek

Herbie:
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So, without revealing my role, let me tell you guys that:

1. I look like a Ku Klux Klan member.

2. Strangely, in spite of that, I'm a villager.

Interesting, huh?

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ZOMG you are Casper the friendly ghost?

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Wolves might have thought Herbie peeked Dan as Casper but then they would have to know Casper exists

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Mets really is evil BTW

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I know you guys don't believe me now but you will

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Uhm did I miss something in mets' post?

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Nah but he's super evil

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Uhm did I miss something in mets' post?

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Nah but he's super evil

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Soul read?

(Ooh, I just called you lastchance. That hurts.)

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No soul read but like I said - super evil. This is more evil by 27.3% than just regular garden variety evil

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Ok I'm out

Beat the Mets, beat the Mets, step right up and beat the Mets

LYNCH METS LDO

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Mets setup kill? Would point to the newted guy being the real seer hunt.
XXX: Check for any people mentioning the herbie kill and gunning for mets

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jgunnip is evil too

your welcome

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jgunnip

Although lynching Mets would be more fun

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So I Didn't read much. jgunnip is still a wolf. I don't know about Mets anymore - apparently he has a bunch of posts here suddenly so w/e

I'm still not voting jgunnip today though.

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Actually [censored] it Mets is still evil

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Very seer like post basically saying "I didn't peek mets". Further incriminating jgunnip followed up by the second post I think it's very hard to think he

peeked mets at this point.

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For Mets to get off my wolf list 3 things need to happen

1. He needs to start seeming villagery (I've only read about half his posts FWIW)

2. He has to take me off ignore

3. He has to change his avatar

Until all three conditions are Met (get it) I'm not changing my vote again.

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Mets peek = unlikely

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Unknown roles or not, I still tend (and I believe almost everyone else tends) to think in terms of Villager/Wolf/Seer

regardless.

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so you dont think about neutral roles. Jester? Terrorist? revenge kill on the first person to vote you?

all i said was that it was interesting. interesting enough that i wont vote him today. stop making a big deal about it. its annoying .. and maybe wolfy



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besides all the tone stuff, which i dont think mets fakes very good, i thought this post was really villagery

thoughts on this herbie?

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We already disagreed on jgunnip and we're just going to have to disagree here. Interestingly I think Mets plays wolf very much the same way you play

villager. When Mets was a wolf in the anniversary game and I spent half a day accusing him of being a wolf then relented I only called off the dogs because

I assumed it was you playing your normal villager game. That's probably why you think he's villagery here.

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More jgunnip incriminating

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PEOPLE THAT SHOULD NOT DIE EVAR

ME
VR
JENNFOX
KM
(anyone else who is secretly female)

THIS IS A SUPER-IMPORTANT PLAN THAT WE MUST NOT DEVIATE FROM UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

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Important sidenote - I'm not female obviously but I included myself because me not dying either is an important part of the plan.

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A post were wolves might think "Why is he so scared of dieing?"
Could also be interpreted as VR = villa peek since she is listed out of alphabetical order

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VR you are talking about logic being your wolf tell as if you are doing some major higher level thinking here yet it seems like you are voting me

right now just because you want me dead? Please explain

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Somewhat negates the possible VR = village peek
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I wasn't even saying she was wolfy for it - I was just confused and looking for clarification.

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Herbie pointing out he didn't call her a wolf though.

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KM is on my villager list

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possible peek from herbie

Mixed stuff:
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Neither is Herbie.

But you're right, I kinda doubt VR is a wolf.

jgunnip

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I get the creepy feeling dan had figured herbie could be seer that peeked jgunnip

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I'm trying to figure out if wolf Epi would defend wolf Jgunnip like this today.

If the answer is no I need to change my list somehow.

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So dan and herbie both hinting at jgunnip = wolf

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I don't think Epi-Jgunnip is wolf-wolf.

I think it's slightly more likely for Epi to be a wolf and Jgunnip to be a villager than vice versa.

They could both be villagers. In which case I'm starting this game like I did USGAS1, and that scares me.

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Dan retracting the jgunnip = wolf


D1 Conclusions:
Dan:
Mentioned way too many people in posts that could be interpreted as a seer hint. As a seer he'd have to be right on all of those. Why was he newted?
His possible village peeks: mets, KM, Scott, herbie (we know 3 of those to be correct from a wolf point of view)
Herbie:
Could have been killed to set up mets. Unlikely though because
a) there was one post were he basically said he didn't
b) mets was suspected enough for wolves to belive he could be lynched anyways
wolves could have thought he peeked jgunnip
= wolf or VR, KM = villa

So this leads to
KM, VR possibly village
jgunnip possibly wolf

Possible wolf spew (we can assume they thought they weren't peeked and were not metagaming):
Luckay:
Someone else do it. I don't want to

Pyramid:
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Vote WDCBooks there was something very strange to me about his seer claim.

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This could be interesting, have to check the seer claim

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I'm gonna vote pyramid scheme. He's made two posts and has made two votes offering basically zero reason. He was far more vocal d1 in

the other two games I saw him play.

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Dear Moron,

What reason am I supposed to give. Here is what we know...

No one has been killed
No one has been lynched
There are evil roles, none of which we know anything about
There are good roles, none of which we know anything about
There are non good or bad roles, none of which we know anything about.

All of you sheep are cluttering up the thread with baseless nonsense and now I get voted for not using proper evidence???

EVIDENCE! What evidence? Are you kidding me?

The post he made was weird, so I voted for him. It was just the way he said it. Other than use a random number generator, what else can I do? After

someone is lynched and someone is Night Killed THEN you have something to work with. So far my LEAST favorite thing about playing this game with you people

is all the Day 1 crap that you spew off. None of it means anything. If I randomize my Day 1 vote (as long as I don't vote for myself) I'll feel just as

good about it.

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Vote Jgunnip pr however you spell his name. Oh btw I'm a seer and he's a wolf.

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Adressing jgunnip as a moron + voting him with a (very mild) seer claim makes him more likely to be wolf with this coming from Ptramid imo.
1) Not an offensive/insulting guy so it's likely he can just say in wolfchat "yeah you know it's not meant like that etc"
2) He's relatively new so I don't think he'd just fake for fun here as a villager. And as a wolf I think he'd "fake to look good" so he's using his inside

info for the fake peek

------ Random stuff found while rereading d1 ---------
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If we lynch from [luckay, mets, herbie] all is fine. If luckay comes up wolf, we can lynch dan.
I prefer luckay or mets because they have been horrible villagers in the last game and thus it's not a big loss to lynch them anyhow.
All three are playing horrible if they are vilagers clogging up the thread with useless [censored].

Code can be three things
1) Evil guy who has no chat with wolfs signaling
2) Some code to clear two masons later
3) Nonsense
Mets and dans reaction to the code were pretty interesting.

luckay (if he comes up wolf we can also clear fmxda for pointing out the code)

Mark reads village to me so far.

I aprove of the plan of not lynching women because it helps my fake claimed role win.

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Why did I not remember this post, wow. I'll have to reread why I thought dan would be evil if luckay is wolf.

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If luckay comes up wolf, we can lynch dan.

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Wait, what? Why?

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Mets and dans reaction to the code were pretty interesting.

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I may or may not have more info as to why I think his numbers are meaningless than I let on. That interesting enough for you?

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You got pretty upset when the idea of lynching luckay due to the code came up. This means you know his role imo and don't like a lynch for such a "trivial

thing"

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Got it. Him claiming to have masoned with luckay later makes his claim belivable. But the newting makes even less sense because why would the wolves assume there's a seer that can randomly mason people?

[jgunnip]

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jgunnip
Discuss

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LOL. Are you serious. Please tell me you aren't being serious. Like for real and you aren't just trying to get a reaction out of me? Really? Like WOW. Just. Wow.

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On to day two...

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Btw, I'd like to point out that I played a pretty good day one. Anyone who's interested in improving their village game should reread it.

[Bulletproof Monk]

omfg......

[Bulletproof Monk]

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jgunnip
Discuss

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LOL. Are you serious. Please tell me you aren't being serious. Like for real and you aren't just trying to get a reaction out of me? Really? Like WOW. Just. Wow.

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QFMFT x 1000

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Dan: why do you think you got newted?
This completely puzzles me because if you were evil you'd lose your power. So if it was a "save a wolf" newting you're probably vanillaish

But wolves couldn't really have thought you're seer either because you masoned with one of them. Maybe they were afraid you could somehow use your masoning in a very destructive way?

[Bulletproof Monk]

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or there are other pumpkins

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[ ] actually bothered to read thread

[jgunnip]

Lol, wow you are serious. I'm only half way through your long post but my head is asploding.

PLEASE TO BE EXPLAINING YOUR ACTIONS AND COMMENTS YESTURDAY?!?

And of all people to go after you choose me. The player who has been working the hardest to clear villagers this game.

[antidan444]

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Dan: why do you think you got newted?

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I already said it earlier, at the time I was newted I thought (however illogically it may have been, because I've proven very capable of irrational thought this game) that the wolves did not want me to reveal the dynamic between Herbie, Luckay and I, and that maybe I would be killed the next night.

That doesn't hold now, so I have no clue.