STOP SQUEEZING ME!!!!

[BalugaWhale]

If you have AK, I still fold. Maybe that is weak of me, but I just don't' like putting in 100bb+ in pf with AK. If you had a really, really good read, then ok.

If you have AK and the SB flat calls, I call and take a flop in position.

[Misanthrope]

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Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 52.7369 % 46.12% 06.62% { 88+, ATs+, ATo+ }
Hand 2: 47.2631 % 40.65% 06.62% { AQo }

I concede.

I haven't thought about it but it looks like calling most raises, at any time with almost any holding is marginal.
Stay tuned. Starscream has made a realisation.

[BalugaWhale]

position changes a lot, although I have never liked calling raises with big offsuit cards. Easy to be dominated, easy to lose control of the hand.

[ajmargarine]

db: SB's most likely hand is a pp. Best case scenario if you call is a CO fold and you are "coin flipping" with his pp.

The aspect that no one is mentioning is that this is going to be a HU sidepot where you and SB are both putting in equal amounts of $$$. You have the short end of the coinflip, 53-47 or whatever, meaning the sidepot would be a -EV proposition. Your main pot chances are probably neutral EV at best, making this overall a -EV call.

[AncientPC]

I call first raise, fold to second.

I've called and been shown AA-QQ too many times. It boggles my mind how they limp/RRAI from CO-BB with big pockets.

[Dan Bitel]

CO folded, I folded, SB had JJ, shorty had 88.

I would've hit a Queen on flop. JJ would hit a jack on turn

[2Paul2]

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Calling preflop is pretty marginal.

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CO range is huge. I dont get it.

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Not really. I doubt he's raising with 67s after someone with 12bb's limps. He most likely has 88+ or decent broadways. I still wouldn't call. I would either fold or reraise depending on what I thought of co.

Db,

Any sort of read on sb? If he's an unknown I probably muck. He's going to have 99-QQ/AK alot here and when you add in the times you get shown a donkish AA/KK I don't think there's enough dead money in the pot to justify a call. AK is closer and probably involves flipping a coin.

Paul

[orange]

Has anyone said anything about a RR pf after the intial raise? then we can be the ones doing the squeezing [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

as played, very easy fold 2nd raise.