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Old 04-11-2006, 10:44 AM
BigTurkey BigTurkey is offline
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Default Re: Story of a mid-pair

Providing we can fold to a raise, what about donking the turn to make sure it doesn't get checked through?

FWIW I don't mind checking the flop. It would be totally sweet if a LP player bet and we could raise his ass. With this many players I don't think the flop is getting checked through very often and if we bet everybody is going to call getting such ridiculous odds.
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Old 04-11-2006, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: Story of a mid-pair

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Providing we can fold to a raise, what about donking the turn to make sure it doesn't get checked through?

FWIW I don't mind checking the flop. It would be totally sweet if a LP player bet and we could raise his ass. With this many players I don't think the flop is getting checked through very often and if we bet everybody is going to call getting such ridiculous odds.

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But you can see here that 2 people did indeed fold to a single bet. Maybe it won't get checked through but why take that chance? You're going to call here you might as well be the aggressor and bet.
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Old 04-11-2006, 11:03 AM
Leobzook Leobzook is offline
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Default Re: Story of a mid-pair

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You're going to call here you might as well be the aggressor and bet.

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yeah. I read the following thread and it got me all confused but after thinking about it I can now see the difference.
Anyway its pretty interesting.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...age=0&vc=1
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Old 04-11-2006, 02:06 PM
Hoss Ballgag Hoss Ballgag is offline
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Default Re: Story of a mid-pair

I bet the flop & bet the turn. If you are raised on either, call and fold unimproved on the next street.
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Old 04-11-2006, 02:18 PM
lucksack lucksack is offline
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Default Re: Story of a mid-pair

:grunch:
In a table like that, I would have just called with 99 on utg.
Flop should be bet as you have overpair.. As should the turn. River fold looks fine to me.
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Old 04-13-2006, 12:00 AM
lord_li lord_li is offline
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Default Re: Story of a mid-pair

Thanks for the info guys.
Next time I will:

Bet the flop: Even though they're getting terrfic odds, it's better than a freeroll as indeed two players did fold.

Lead the turn: If I led and was re-raised the button would be forced to call two cold with overcards.

Check/call the river if dangerous: If the three flush hits or an A,K i've propably been outdrawn.

Cheers,
Li.
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Old 04-13-2006, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: Story of a mid-pair

GRUNCH

I would raise on the flop, the pf raiser wont always raise with a pp, he could have high pair or overcards.

I would raise then reraise if need be, maybe saving yourself some bets later.

I cant understand checking the flop, you give someone with overcards a free card.
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