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Old 03-22-2006, 02:16 PM
timotheeeee timotheeeee is offline
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Nope. As the other's said, Nazi's were anti-socialist. I've already gone through the trouble of showing Hitler's hatred of socialists in another thread where a poster was trying to make the equally ignorant claim that Hitler was an atheist. Quit being a lazy troll and do some goddamn research.
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Old 03-22-2006, 02:19 PM
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The ideological thrust of Nazism was profoundly anti-Marxist. The communists and social democrats were the biggest enemies of the Nazis, and Hitler's Weimar-era rhetoric focused much more on the threat from the left than on the threat of Jews. Sorry, but these are just the facts. I don't know how I can explain more clearly to you that none of this is contested by anybody who seriously studies interwar Germany or who really knows anything about Nazism.

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You know, its an astonishing fact that Hitler's socialist party didn't kill Jews in the 1920's.

However, Hitler's socialist party did kill Jews in the 1930's.

But National Socialists are not in any way shape or form socialists (because you say so, I take it)
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Old 03-22-2006, 02:20 PM
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Nope. As the other's said, Nazi's were anti-socialist. I've already gone through the trouble of showing Hitler's hatred of socialists in another thread where a poster was trying to make the equally ignorant claim that Hitler was an atheist. Quit being a lazy troll and do some goddamn research.

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Gotcha. So because Anarcho-capitalists hate Statist-capitalists, anarcho-capitalists are not actually capitalists. Makes sense.
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Old 03-22-2006, 02:22 PM
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"Socialists killed the Jews because the Jews didn't fit in with their democratically elected central plan"

People killed 6 millions Jews. Therefore all people are bad.

If you want to call the Nazis socialists, go ahead. But they virulently hated any form of socialism other than their own national "socialism", they condemned and murdered socialists, and the vast vast majority of self-identified socialists are opponents of Nazi ideology.

Your quote from the Spanish newspaper, if it was as approving as I assume it is, strongly inclines me to call you a disgusting racial superiorist piece of sh1t.

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Yeah to say that the Holocaust was caused by socialist idealogy is the most retarded thing I've heard in my brief visit to the Politics forum.

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You must have missed the True or False:

Simply indicate whether its true or false and why you this it is so.

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Oh I get it. Although, I don't quite understand why you bothered with an inane true or false question. How about this one:

True or False

Anarcho-capitalists murdered 6 million Jews during World War II.

If you don't answer, and instead comment on the stupidity of the question, I'll have to remind you that WHOOOOA IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION, JUST ANSWER IT.
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Old 03-22-2006, 02:24 PM
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Anarcho-capitalists murdered 6 million Jews during World War II.


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False. A socialist State murdered 6 millions Jews, because the Jews did not fit in with their democratically elected central plan.

See that? I managed to pull that off without any name calling.
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Old 03-22-2006, 02:26 PM
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Nope. As the other's said, Nazi's were anti-socialist. I've already gone through the trouble of showing Hitler's hatred of socialists in another thread where a poster was trying to make the equally ignorant claim that Hitler was an atheist. Quit being a lazy troll and do some goddamn research.

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Gotcha. So because Anarcho-capitalists hate Statist-capitalists, anarcho-capitalists are not actually capitalists. Makes sense.

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Gotcha. So if Statist-capitalism causes monopolies and free market interference, I can say capitalism causes monopolies and free market intereference. Makes sense.
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Old 03-22-2006, 02:36 PM
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Gotcha. So if Statist-capitalism causes monopolies and free market interference, I can say capitalism causes monopolies and free market intereference. Makes sense.


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False. Incorrect analogy.

Your premise is that since National Socialists are hated by another Socialist party (I suppose a "purer" socialist party), then it follows that National Socialists cannot possibly be socialists.

Therefore if Statist-Capitalists, Republicans for instance, are hated by Anarcho-capitalists (a purer form of capitalism), then Republicans cannot possibly be capitalists.

Your follow up analogy bears no resemblance to either of the above comparisons.
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Old 03-22-2006, 02:54 PM
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Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance

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Yeah, those stupid Muslims

All they ever came up with was coffee, the pinhole camera, numbers, algebra, and many other things.
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Old 03-22-2006, 02:59 PM
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Anarcho-capitalists murdered 6 million Jews during World War II.


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False. A socialist State murdered 6 millions Jews, because the Jews did not fit in with their democratically elected central plan.


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If the central plan you're referring to is the "kill all the Jews" plan, then I agree.

edited to add: I just don't get what you're saying. The Nazi's killed Jew, b/c the Nazi's were socialists and the Jews didn't like socialism? Is this the same reason the Nazi's murdered the gypsies, homosexuals, the physically and mentally disabled etc etc etc.

P.S. Nazi+democratically elected = LOLLERSKATES
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Old 03-22-2006, 03:24 PM
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It is demonstrably untrue that socialist policies have eliminated a sense of nationality and heritage. Look at Russia or much of Eastern Europe. These are highly nationalistic countries with rich heritages.


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Gotcha. So when centralized socialist policies consume entire nations and prevent them from directing any sort of internal affairs, and renames them the Soviet Bloc, or simply considers them territory of Nazi Germany, this is actually thriving nationalism. Thanks for correcting me.

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The expansion of either the USSR or Nazi Germany (not a socialist country obviously) did not eliminate nationalism in the states they conquered. This is just an obvious empirical fact.

You are also just confusing socialism with military expansion.
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