Train Wreck...

[helpmeout]

WTSD stat is misleading, for starters it takes a lot of hands to converge. Its easy to have a few thousand hands where your WTSD is 5 points lower or higher.

Also a lot of the loose players with lowish WTSD stats usually fold their hands early over making river folds.

[Catt]

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I hate the flop 3-bet.

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Why? If you call the flop I think you have to fold the turn unimproved.

Krishan

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I agree with Dane -- you'll be fine calling a lot of blank turns. I'd much rather preserve the ability to put in more bets when my equity skyrockets via hitting on turn or river than 3-betting the flop.

[oreopimp]

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I hate the flop 3-bet. The turn bet look fine.

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[krishan]

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WTSD stat is misleading, for starters it takes a lot of hands to converge. Its easy to have a few thousand hands where your WTSD is 5 points lower or higher.

Also a lot of the loose players with lowish WTSD stats usually fold their hands early over making river folds.

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Yes but 31 is an outlier making it more likely that this guy isn't a callng station.

Krishan

[PartyGirlUK]

Come on guys. I advocate stronger than most that people call down with any pair - but on this board most people are going to find a fold with an 8, most likely with a 9 too.

[kiddo]

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Maybe? His wtsd is pretty low..I think he'll say the hell with it with an 8 or 9 or PP often enough.


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For me, this is a 2street-decision on turn.

Are you saying that you would call this turn and fold river with a pair?

[shejk]

To me, both the flop and river are bad.

I'd much rather call his flop raise, with the intention to call a turn bet or raise if I hit a pair or the straight.

Read-dependent, but I'll fold pretty often when he bets into me even though the ace comes on the turn.

On the river, I expect a busted straight draw will check, allowing me to check behind and take it down, while I can fold unimproved if he bets.

If I take the line you did here, I won't bet the river. He's not folding, probably not even a pair of twos.

[krishan]

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Maybe? His wtsd is pretty low..I think he'll say the hell with it with an 8 or 9 or PP often enough.


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For me, this is a 2street-decision on turn.


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I think I like this. I was checking behind unimproved but the K convinced me to bet again. You think a bet on each street is best on a river blank if you decide to continue on the turn?

Krishan

[PartyGirlUK]

Seeing the turn as a 2 street decision is oversimplyfing things. It might be that he folds the turn 30% of the time, but giving that he calls it, he calls a blank river 90% of the time.

[PartyGirlUK]

And the chances he will call the river IS much higher than the chances he will call the turn.