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Old 03-11-2006, 10:14 AM
tedtodd tedtodd is offline
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Default Re: anyone else here grind out 20K /year without any software help?

I do think HUDs are an unfair advantage- and for that reason I play most of my games at Bodog. I wish PP and others would crack down- and I'll move my money back if they do.

Poker is an intellectual game- and my intellectual advantage is removed when my competition is using HUDs.
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: anyone else here grind out 20K /year without any software help?

I don't use any software, but it's more out of laziness than anything else. I'll do the SNGPT stuff longhand if I'm really curious about a situation, but I have a pretty good intuitive sense about pushbotting.
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: anyone else here grind out 20K /year without any software help?

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I think thats 'cause your Canadian

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As soon as I posted that I knew Id get [censored] from you and lacky, lol.
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: anyone else here grind out 20K /year without any software help?

OP,

No amount of software can replace creative thinking at the tables. Collecting data on yourself, however, is going to make you play better because you will want the best database for later use.

Indy
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Old 03-11-2006, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: anyone else here grind out 20K /year without any software help?

Among anything else you can possibly want, in SNG's, PT/PAHUD will show you things such as how many times this player has checkraised, their AF for any given street, their blind stealing %, and how often they make/call c-bets, by clicking one button.

"Oh hey, this is his third CR in 500 hands, I wonder what he has"
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Old 03-11-2006, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: anyone else here grind out 20K /year without any software help?

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i guess this might come off as somewhat of a brag post but that is not my intentions. i was just thinking about this while reading a post in another forum if its possible to be a big winner without any poker traker, HUD, SNG, ICM calculator etc... well, i am, i won over 30K last year, some of it in MTTs, but majority grinding out 55s and 109s, and now the 77s. am i rare? btw,, im off to an even better start this year, but sorry I cant tell you exact ROIs or ITM's.

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why would i do that when i can make more using it? this is like asking if anyone is making $x/yr by always folding AA or never c/r'ing.
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Old 03-11-2006, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: anyone else here grind out 20K /year without any software help?

I don't use any of that stuff. I've used PokerStove to work on some Game Theory applications to poker, but that's it.
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Old 03-11-2006, 03:28 PM
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Several people, whose opinions I value, swear by HUDs, but I used one for about 15 hands and couldn't stand the distraction.

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Yeah I have never used HUD's. I tried once and it didn't work, but I don't think I'd want it much anyway.
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Old 03-11-2006, 03:41 PM
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I do not use PAHUD and consider using it to be clear-cut and serious cheating. In fact I'm trying my best to get Party to ban its use.

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ATM it is not banned. Everyone is allowed to use it, so how is it unfair? How can it be cheating to use it now?

I really don't like being called a cheater.

Suited, it is very confusing until the 16th hand.
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