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Old 03-10-2006, 09:16 PM
DownWitMyBadSelf DownWitMyBadSelf is offline
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Default Re: Float turns top pair

The play seems fine, but betting over 1/2 the pot on the river what hands do expect to get called down on that ur ahead of?

I personally would probably bet like $195 instead of $300 - to encourage a call with worse hands - but is this is a bad play b/c now it looks less like a bluff and more like a weak value bet?
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Old 03-11-2006, 05:43 AM
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So yeah, I bet 300, he called with T9. I win.
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Old 03-11-2006, 06:22 AM
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Haven't read the other replies, but turn and river look fine. Seems like one of those spots where he'll call w/ worse some of the time (perhaps because he's a station, perhaps because he suspects you're floating) and fold better sometimes too (fearing a flush, most likely, but may or may not be probable based on just how crazy you've been).

That flop is a kinda dodgy one to float; it looks like the type of board where someone leading the flop is going to call down, unless a four card straight develops, and perhaps then too. I don't float as often as some, but I tend to save it for flops that have more potential to become scary.

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Old 03-11-2006, 06:28 AM
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nh
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:22 PM
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I fold preflop. I check the river against sane players.
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: Float turns top pair

The worst hand that might call you on that board is Ace 10. Or maybe QJ. From experience at the 5/10, bad river bet.
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:21 PM
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if you call pf with kjo, do you believe hands like 87o, A4o, J2s, and/or QTo show profit otb vs a raise?

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I would call KJo, QTo, and 87o against most opponents, and fold A4o and J2s. Am I silly?
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:28 PM
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I call or reraise KJs in this spot, but I probably fold KJo. I just have a fetish for suited cards.
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Float turns top pair

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if you call pf with kjo, do you believe hands like 87o, A4o, J2s, and/or QTo show profit otb vs a raise?

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I would call KJo, QTo, and 87o against most opponents, and fold A4o and J2s. Am I silly?

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I dont know if you're silly, but I believe those offsuit connectors/1gap in your range are probably losing you money, unless (the key stipulation) you're calling in position vs a very bad player (easy to read) a very passive player, one who opens WAY too many hands in the steal spot, or you're v deep against a guy who overvalues limit sklansky hands.

although some instances those calls could be +EV, it probably is a small leak for you to cold call those spots.
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:39 PM
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I call or reraise KJs in this spot, but I probably fold KJo. I just have a fetish for suited cards.

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I normally do the same
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