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Re: too big to back out?
*grunch
I fold the flop myself. If I peeled one that is one thing but peeling two on a raise and reraise is folly with this hand imo. |
#22
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Re: too big to back out?
Miller says don't fold decent hands for one bet in a big pot. You have TPNK on the flop and have to call two bets cold to continue. Fold.
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Re: too big to back out?
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And since it hasn't been mentioned. Q2s PF, even "in position", is pretty darn pointless. [/ QUOTE ] You won't have to make any of these postflop decisions if you stop playing suited junk like this. On the flop you have to fold this because I don't think a Q or 2 will give you the winner. Bascially, you are drawing to only a backdoor flush draw a good portion of the time. I don't mind the way you played the river once you got there as going for th overcall isn't terrible. |
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Re: too big to back out?
pf isnt terrible if you're very good postflop and your table consists of donkeys. i would play Q5s and up here.
however, if you're gonna play this pf, theres no way in hell you should be getting married to flops like this. |
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Re: too big to back out?
Grunching. Absent any read on the table I'd fold preflop. On Flop I'd fold on that board, even with TP. A bet and a raise with lots of straight outs, lots of ways of counterfeiting. If I do decide that my TP is good (if SB and BB are habitual raisers on draws, for example) I'd want to 3-bet.
On turn, I think you're getting 5.25-1 when it comes round to you raised. If you hit the only hands to worry about are AJs/K10s/A10s. On the river I'd be raising along, but with the sinking feeling that BB is playing K10s when he caps. |
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Re: too big to back out?
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I wasn't even going to be in this hand but I had position and was suited with just a Q high and no kicker. [/ QUOTE ] Go with your first thought and fold pf...provided you can't get away on this flop with this action. I don't even see one clean out for you, much less the 6 or so you need to continue. |
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Re: too big to back out?
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[ QUOTE ] Pf is close [/ QUOTE ] Pooh-Bah or not, I'd like to see some motivation (mathwise or not) for that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] That's MY usual argument [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. I know it sometimes sound like I am very confident about things where I basically am just going on what I have read some time ago (or think I have). But it's boring to write 'I believe that' etc . every time. Let's just say that if I don't give a solid mathematical argument for a statement I have none. And if I could have some of the posts deleted preventing people for thinking I'm good, I would. |
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Re: too big to back out?
LIMP PF= SUCKS
CALL FLOP =SUX IF U DONK IT THIS FAR. JUST GO-AHEAD AND DONK IT INTO NUTS |
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