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Old 10-30-2007, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?

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MP raised a donk bet and CO has flatted on a very drawy board... lets not get too crazy about how strong they are

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There's a difference between a drawy board and a dangerous board. This is the worst of both worlds.

FWIW, I think CO has a draw here nearly always. MP could have a ton of different hands.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:04 PM
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MP raised a donk bet and CO has flatted on a very drawy board... lets not get too crazy about how strong they are

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There's a difference between a drawy board and a dangerous board. This is the worst of both worlds.

FWIW, I think CO has a draw here nearly always. MP could have a ton of different hands.

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then its a push, isn't it?
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?

I believe so. I think it's fairly marginal though.

EDIT: For less variance, calling is also an decent option, I think. With the plan of open-shoving any "safe" turn, check/folding a club turn, and HYACHACHACHA on a turn that brings a straight draw.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?

unless CO is a donk u need to dump this asap
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?

I realllllly think we don't have to worry much about CO currently beating us. JJ he re-raises preflop, 77 or 99 he pushes on flop (only one combo for 99 anyways), T8o he probably folds preflop, T8s (not clubs) he probably (say, at least 70% of the time) pushes flop, and T8s (clubs) he could probably go either way.

So that's not a lot of hands I'm worried about.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?

Basically I feel that our equity isn't great, probably even below 50% in this hand. But theres a lot of dead money in the pot and its definitely possible they are sharing each others outs. Both players are pretty much committed so I push.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?

i go all in here. i think the first raiser often has a hand here that you re far ahead of. if someone has 77 and the other a combo draw you have at least 20% equity, so thats not that bad.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?

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MP raised a donk bet and CO has flatted on a very drawy board... lets not get too crazy about how strong they are

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agreed
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