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Old 10-21-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: AA deep with nfd

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If we fold AA to the flop raise we are extremely exploitable.

Dunno if that helps or is even relevant though.

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ur exploiting someone by limp/calling pre, then raising a PSB into 4 people? no it doesn't help and is not relevant here. folding to the flop raise is fine. I check here a decent amount specifically because I can't stand a raise.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: AA deep with nfd

c/c flop
c/c turn
probably fold to river shove

When you're 200bbs or more deep, playing AA postflop like the nuts is suicidal. You have ONE pair in a 4 way raised pot. The pot is bloated with both money and players. This is not a heads up 3bet pot. Then AA is the nuts, here AA is very marginal. Get to showdown or fold.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:54 AM
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Really hate the flop bet size. I usually fold to a raise here I guess, especially with him raising after you bet soo big.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:55 AM
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I was villain btw.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: AA deep with nfd

Is this every anything but 33/55?

He's raising the flop 4handed, while you have shown quite some strenght by betting into 3 people here.
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:01 AM
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4h6h maybe, but I don't think we are ever ahead on this turn (or a very insignificant amount of the time).
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: AA deep with nfd

Checking flop would be pretty horrible. Also, the fact that its 4-handed isn't super important here IMO since OP almost never has more than 1 pair. I think I had 33/55 or 64/56 (with a heart).
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:05 AM
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Lol pretty sick if you're trying to get some random to fold AK/AA/KK on the turn, especially as a lot of his combos have the nfd to go along with the pair.
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:07 AM
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Lol pretty sick if you're trying to get some random to fold AK/AA/KK on the turn, especially as a lot of his combos have the nfd to go along with the pair.

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KK never folds. 1/2 the time AK/AA doesn't have a redraw, and that is a terrible turn card, and I always have outs
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:23 AM
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Checking flop would be pretty horrible.

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care to explain this?
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