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Old 10-13-2007, 02:20 AM
the_casino_kid the_casino_kid is offline
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Default Re: Fgators: This is running bad

MAN THIS IS SO GAY, I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO COMMENT ...IS THAT YOUR [censored] LIFETIME STATS JESUS CHRIST MAN STOP WHINING.GET SOME SKILLS, STOP TALKING ABOUT FGATORS WHEN YOU PLAY THAT BAD, STOP TALKING, STOP POSTING IN GENERAL..AND IF THAT ISN'T YOUR LIFETIME STATS THEN WHY EVEN BOTHER POSTING!!!! WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR LAME 10K HAND DOWNSWING...WE ALL GET THEM, MOVE ON
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: Fgators: This is running bad

[x] Poster seems to understand PokerEV
[x] Actually runs bad

Seems painfull aisle, but looks like your playing solid.

Does PokerEV take into account say KK vs AA all in pre? or is that ignored, same with 22 vs AA on A2A for example?
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: Fgators: This is running bad

[ QUOTE ]
[x] Poster seems to understand PokerEV
[x] Actually runs bad

Seems painfull aisle, but looks like your playing solid.

Does PokerEV take into account say KK vs AA all in pre? or is that ignored, same with 22 vs AA on A2A for example?

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It takes them into account but it doesn't factor them in to how well you are running. For example if you get it in with second set to top set on the flop, your "sklansky bucks" are going to be roughly the result of the hand, given you only had 1 out and got all your money in, even though getting it in is obviously +EV. So no, coolers aren't taken into account for how good or bad you are running.

Trust me that I'm also getting coolered significantly more than I've coolered anybody else. There are some hands where a donk flops top pair and goes broke and stuff like that where he shouldn't have, I don't consider those coolers though.
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:35 AM
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Default Re: Fgators: This is running bad

this is pretty dang sick. if this happened to me i would kill myself.

gl with running better/not utterly [censored]
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:35 PM
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MAN THIS IS SO GAY, I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO COMMENT ...IS THAT YOUR [censored] LIFETIME STATS JESUS CHRIST MAN STOP WHINING.GET SOME SKILLS, STOP TALKING ABOUT FGATORS WHEN YOU PLAY THAT BAD, STOP TALKING, STOP POSTING IN GENERAL..AND IF THAT ISN'T YOUR LIFETIME STATS THEN WHY EVEN BOTHER POSTING!!!! WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR LAME 10K HAND DOWNSWING...WE ALL GET THEM, MOVE ON

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wtf
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: Fgators: This is running bad

jesus [censored] christ... aiychacha.. my downswong was only 3.5k.. so u win=D or lose.. GL a5
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Fgators: This is running bad

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[x] Poster seems to understand PokerEV
[x] Actually runs bad

Seems painfull aisle, but looks like your playing solid.

Does PokerEV take into account say KK vs AA all in pre? or is that ignored, same with 22 vs AA on A2A for example?

[/ QUOTE ]

It takes them into account but it doesn't factor them in to how well you are running. For example if you get it in with second set to top set on the flop, your "sklansky bucks" are going to be roughly the result of the hand, given you only had 1 out and got all your money in, even though getting it in is obviously +EV. So no, coolers aren't taken into account for how good or bad you are running.

Trust me that I'm also getting coolered significantly more than I've coolered anybody else. There are some hands where a donk flops top pair and goes broke and stuff like that where he shouldn't have, I don't consider those coolers though.

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pokerEV doesn't take into account coolers. That huge blip on my graph is the result of me having 8T vs AA on a AT88x board while playing 5/10 somewhat deepstacked.

Also I audited the calculation on a certain hand I played at 1/2. UTG raises, I repop OTB with 33, flop comes down 358, UTG CRAI I snapcall, he shows JJ, turn: J.

I looked at my SBs from pokerEV and it gave me like $158, which is WAY off.

intuitively I think you'd calculate it the equity preflop * the pot which is $51 * 0.18, = $10, plus equity post flop when money went in which is like 0.9 * $440 which is like $400 or so. So my SBs were something like $450 in a $530 pot or whatever it came out to be.

Would be nice to have a coolerEV program, since we all know coolers are 0EV longterm (with a constant definition of cooler) it would be nice to compare how many times you were giving or receiving (which could also lead to some awesome names for the program... PitcherOrCatcherEV?!?!).

During my DS I was on the downside of probably about 30+ coolers and dished out 6-8.
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:55 PM
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:58 PM
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not even 20 buyins is running bad? rofl
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