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Old 10-06-2007, 01:09 AM
MikeyPatriot MikeyPatriot is offline
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Default Re: Marion Jones admits steriods use

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The indisputable fact is that Barry Bonds TOOK STEROIDS.

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FYP.

Well, I guess it's indisputable if you've read Game of Shadows or been paying any attention at all.

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OMG. Have you read any of the million Bonds threads? Stop now before RedBean makes you look like an ass.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: Marion Jones admits steriods use

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The indisputable fact is that Barry Bonds TOOK STEROIDS.

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FYP.

Well, I guess it's indisputable if you've read Game of Shadows or been paying any attention at all.

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And now we open up yet another can of worms. Just go back and check the previous threads that discussed roids such as the "Fate of #756 by Marc Ecko" thread before getting into this debate plz.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: Marion Jones admits steriods use

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Conte asserted that he gave two substances containing steroids, a clear liquid and a cream, to Greg Anderson, Bonds’ trainer,...

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From the same source you quoted, yet for some reason neglected to link...

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Much of the piece consisted of detailed (if not necessarily new) charges by Conte that he provided drugs to athletes including track star Kelli White, several members of the Oakland Raiders football team, and Marion Jones.

But, intriguingly, Conte hesitated when it comes to perhaps the biggest name of all entangled in the federal steroid investigation: Barry Bonds.

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Like I said, Conte has readily spoken about providing steroids to several athletes, but has repeatedly denied giving any to Bonds.

From the SF Chronicle, which isn't the most Bond's friendly organization:

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BALCO founder Victor Conte insisted he never provided performance-enhancing drugs to Barry Bonds and that a new book that makes those claims is "full of outright lies."

Asked whether he gave Bonds performance-enhancing drugs, Conte said: "No, I did not."

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In contrast, however, Conte DID say that he provided Jones with steroids and other PED's.

Again, from the Chron:

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...when Conte appeared on the ABC program "20/20" and said he had supplied Jones with growth hormone, insulin, the endurance drug EPO and a designer steroid called "the clear" in 2000 and 2001.
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Again, like I said, Conte has previously asserted that he gave steroids to Marion Jones and several other athletes, but has denied giving any to Bonds.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: Marion Jones admits steriods use

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if you've read Game of Shadows or been paying any attention at all.

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When SF Chronicle nominated and submitted the authors enitre body of work to the Pulitzer committee for review and possible prize consideration, it never made it beyond the initial jury stage to the Pulitzer committee.

Their work was deemed by the jury to be "based upon unsubstantiated and uncorroborated evidence and was therefore not able to be viewed as factual.

Oops....

Not to mention to several instances of allegations made in the book attributed to sources that were later recanted or denied as even being made by the sources cited.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: Marion Jones admits steriods use

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OMG. Have you read any of the million Bonds threads? Stop now before RedBean makes you look like an ass.

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Shhhh....I bill by the hour. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: Marion Jones admits steroids use

Kudos to Marion, she really manned up here.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: Marion Jones admits steroids use

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Kudos to Marion, she really manned up here.

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The admission was a condition of her plea agreement.

Considering the reported evidence and testimony against her....it was a smart choice.

According to reports, terms of the deal have her agreeing to serve 3 months in jail, rather than the potential max of 5 years for lying to federal investigators.

Also, did anyone else find it a bit odd that news of her indictment was never released? How in the world were they able to keep that such a secret?

Oh..that's right, because she doesn't have 762 homeruns.
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: Marion Jones admits steroids use

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Kudos to Marion, she really manned up here.

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nh, i think anyway.
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: Marion Jones admits steroids use

no prison for her

lying to the gov't about what u put in your body is a joke. it's none of their business

civil suits from the people she beat sounds about right
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: Marion Jones admits steroids use

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Kudos to Marion, she really manned up here.

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nh, i think anyway.

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Dammit, now I see what he did there. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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