$60, really slim bubble push...?

[Little John]

i fold here. people call too loose, even with a shorty.

[braminc]

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Incredibly read dependent. I mean BB shouldn't call with like AK and stuff but most people still do.

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to darin, pudge and everyone else who quoted this:

i understand its read dependent. against any solid player, its an instant push and against any definite donk its an easy fold. HOWEVER, this guy is somewhere in the middle as i noted in OP.

what would you guys do when you havent played with someone enough to have a solid 'read'? does that make it a fold?

[Little John]

here is your breakeven call range:

sb 88 ATs AJo
bb 88 AQo AJs

fwiw - if these guys know you are pushing 75%ish, then they should call with TT+.

the real nice part about pushing is if you steal the blinds here and shorty is able to double up on the next hand, then you are in a great position to pwn.

[ryanghall]

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I haven't played sngs in a long time, but this was an any two cards push when I played.

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It still is.

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I disagree in almost every case.

Ryan

[ryanghall]

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In perfect world it would be a +ev push, in real its -ev

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QF Absolute T

[Pudge714]

Brain,
It's dependent on a lot of gameflow things. He is on the tighter side of solid, have I been shoving alot etc. Lets say I just remember one hand where he called MP pfr with AJo that is probably enough to fold here. Some guys basically have the same reshoving range as calling range so I might make it 1k etc.

[ryanghall]

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Brain,
It's dependent on a lot of gameflow things. He is on the tighter side of solid, have I been shoving alot etc. Lets say I just remember one hand where he called MP pfr with AJo that is probably enough to fold here. Some guys basically have the same reshoving range as calling range so I might make it 1k etc.

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Against a lot of people this is definitely a much better idea.

Ryan

[braminc]

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Brain,
It's dependent on a lot of gameflow things. He is on the tighter side of solid, have I been shoving alot etc. Lets say I just remember one hand where he called MP pfr with AJo that is probably enough to fold here. Some guys basically have the same reshoving range as calling range so I might make it 1k etc.

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k, thx pudge. and while im normally very much in tune with the subtle factors of 'gameflow', i dont really remember that much now obviously...

good points though

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My only read is based on fact, that i play better icm poker then my opponents which means they are very capable of making stupid calls in situations like this, and if they werent and were playing perfect icm poker instead i wouldn't be making any money.