KK i play weak

[Imrahil]

I kinda like flop raise here but what to do if he shoves?

[Xanta]

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raise flop wtf

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call shove?

[ASPoker8]

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I kinda like flop raise here but what to do if he shoves?

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call shove

Does anyone else not see how drawy this board is and how he can only have 44/JT if hes ahead?

If he's not 3betting TT/JJ preflop v an aggressive button raiser, make a note and exploit this later.

[ejay]

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raise flop wtf

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call shove?

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If i get all the $ in here i am almost sure that i ma way behind vs this opponent

[ASPoker8]

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raise flop wtf

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call shove?

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If i get all the $ in here i am almost sure that i ma way behind vs this opponent

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The only way you are way behind is if he has 44.

If you are very confident this villain isn't 3betting TT/JJ preflop, you need to let us know that, as it completely changes this hand.

[Nick Royale]

This thread is all over the place.

Yes, the flop is draw heavy, but what draws can the straight forward tag donking the flop really have? As for FDs about none. He could have KQs, for 2 combos. Sure throw in some random ATcc and 98cc, but our equity vs those aren't great.

I think he'll call JJ/TT preflop a significant portion (30%+). Otherwise he'll have JTs/44 pretty frequently.

Getting it in on this flop vs this range is losing money.


People disagreeing, please put the donker on a range and we'll discuss.

[Nick Royale]

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With the flop lead from this guy, I think you're looking at like AJ/AcTc/AcQc/8c9c/44/TT/JTs/KQs. You're about 55/45 against this range. The donk guy most likely has some sort of draw or a weaker pair than yours. Raising here isn't too bad, but I think calling and looking to jam a safe turn card is a pretty good option.

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Nice. I like your range. I don't think he'll call ATs/98s/AJ too often preflop though. And he's more likely to donk the flop with sets/2-pairs 3-ways imo. Besides if you raise the flop he probably won't stack off with AJ, so we're more like 33/67 vs his all-in range.

I don't mind just calling the flop and folding the turn, as I think he'll check the turn 3-ways with a draw a good portion. In this case he's betting much harder on the turn than on the flop despite getting called in 2 spots, I think that's a good sign for us being beat. So I prefer this line to raising the flop and getting it in(because if we're raising the flop we're obv calling a push, can't see how that's even a discussion).

[ejay]

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raise flop wtf

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call shove?

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If i get all the $ in here i am almost sure that i ma way behind vs this opponent

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The only way you are way behind is if he has 44.

If you are very confident this villain isn't 3betting TT/JJ preflop, you need to let us know that, as it completely changes this hand.

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I am not confident that he will but i am also not ruling it out as a possibility

[Melchiades]

As usual I agree with Nick.

[Requin]

I think its fine.