25PLO - shove here?

[alavet]

i think we have a tons of value if CO has any flush draw
ummm okay maybe we should push [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img](((

[Nologo]

One more question about this hand. If I didn't hit a pair on the flop here, I'm pretty sure shoving would be bad (but maybe I'm wrong.) If I don't have a pair on this flop, should I be calling the shove from the shortstack or folding? Unless I'm wrong and shoving is still OK.

[donkeykong2]

i think this is ok too unless co is a nit and we somehow have to fear him having something big here. i wouldnt expect to make big money with that flop push though on average.