KK Deep- Villain's fold button appears to be broken

[keikiwai]

88 and 66 would be super ugly here

[ManChild]

'he has given the impression that he is a thinking LAG'

and 'he is a solid, thinking lag'

[aislephive]

Yeah my initial thoughts were to muck this, but it really depends on what level I give him credit for being on. At $200nl he probably isn't thinking too high, so thats why I'd lean towards a fold. Shoving isn't bad either, it's pretty close either way.

[ValarMorghulis]

A muck here is good. I'm sure most of his raise-cbet stats come from single raised pots with only two players where the cbettors range is wide. Here, he probably has a set very often.

[criminaldave]

My thinking:

I felt villain was most likely to lead out with a set/made straight. He check raised me big so he has some sort of hand. With our history and his probable read on me I felt he was most likely making his raise that large with a big draw, so I shoved. He instacalled with J9 spades.

I need to work on my deepstack game, cos this hand had me really unsure what the hell to do. Would it ever be worth checking the flop against this sort of player or is that too weak?

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fold.

his line:
cold calls pf raise
cold calls 3 bet after UTG flat called.

his range: 99,55,77,98ss

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i hope this is a joke

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ManChild ... that is his range. even if you open it up a bit you would be flipping or slightly behind i would imagine. (I don't have poker stove on hand) but why are you wanting to get your stack in here when there are much much better spots.

[Nightfall123]

ya everyone is giving waaayyyy too much credit to the raises 40% of c-bets. We're 200bb's deep and 3-way, no way he gets out of line here too often. Either we're crushed or we're flipping. I fold.

[XHitman014]

That may be the range you put him on but that range sucks ass. No overpairs? No other FDs? Lots of bad players play QQ-TT this way.

[Keyser.]

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That may be the range you put him on but that range sucks ass. No overpairs? No other FDs? Lots of bad players play QQ-TT this way.

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I'm willing to bet this guy never has an overpair, and his FDs all include SDs, 1 over, or a pair.

[blah-blah-blah]

I think i check this flop to control the pot size since i hate it if we get c/r'ed. maybe I'm influenced by the results but I know I've checked in spots like these before.