Please help me settle an argument - 400NL hand - Page 3

Shizzle12345 · #21 09-20-2007, 07:26 PM

there are 16 cards in the deck that can come on the turn.. So you call, and one of those 16 can kill the action.. Thats about 1/3 of the time. SO i think shoving flop is better.

And you are basicly 15% more likely to win against single club here on turn, So i dont think its +ev to just call flop for that reason.

kolotoure · #22 09-20-2007, 07:27 PM

How is there 16 cards?

Shizzle12345 · #23 09-20-2007, 07:29 PM

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2 3 or 7? and any clubs?

kolotoure · #24 09-20-2007, 07:30 PM

I'm not shutting down against this villain when the board pairs

Unknown Soldier · #25 09-20-2007, 07:31 PM

why are you assuming he has Ac here every time? why can't he have JhJd?

shoving is better against his range

kolotoure · #26 09-20-2007, 07:32 PM

I misread the action, I hate calling here

Jay Riall · #27 09-20-2007, 07:34 PM

Why are you guys even discussing this?

Hosehound25 · #28 09-20-2007, 07:36 PM

Get it in on the flop. We're trying to maximize EV, not limit possible damage or dampen our heart beat.

Unknown Soldier · #29 09-20-2007, 07:41 PM

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ive boycotted myself from poker for a few days so im bored out of my mind

El_Hombre_Grande · #30 09-20-2007, 08:06 PM

WTF am I missing? Its three way, a nice pot, and I have a baby flush?

You played it right. Big bet. A passive flop is a terrible line IMO. You are begging to get beat AND a ton of cards slow him down that don't help you.