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Old 09-18-2007, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: Fold your boat sir.

I don't think $45 folds a boat in BvB, and I don't think he'd call playing the board. I do think that a VB of $15 or so is good here.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: Fold your boat sir.

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I don't think $45 folds a boat in BvB, and I don't think he'd call playing the board. I do think that a VB of $15 or so is good here.

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What are we hoping calls this value bet?
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: Fold your boat sir.

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I don't think $45 folds a boat in BvB, and I don't think he'd call playing the board. I do think that a VB of $15 or so is good here.

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What are we hoping calls this value bet?

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Any trash hand he c/raised with that he gave up on, then saw us check turn and wants a chop.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:14 PM
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I don't think $45 folds a boat in BvB, and I don't think he'd call playing the board. I do think that a VB of $15 or so is good here.

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What are we hoping calls this value bet?

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Any trash hand he c/raised with that he gave up on, then saw us check turn and wants a chop.

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You think a 19/6 calls has trash here AND calls a VB? I don't.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: Fold your boat sir.

By trash I mean any random hand like KQ. Honestly, it's even possible he could have an Ace if he bluff check/raised. Villain must be pretty aggressive preflop to have a 3 AF with such passive preflop number.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: Fold your boat sir.

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By trash I mean any random hand like KQ. Honestly, it's even possible he could have an Ace if he bluff check/raised. Villain must be pretty aggressive preflop to have a 3 AF with such passive preflop number.

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I admit it's been a while since I've been regularly checking PT stats, but IIRC those stats signal a TAG-ish dude who's been playing too much full ring, not a donkey.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: Fold your boat sir.

I didn't say he was a donkey necessarily. It might just be a person who isn't comfortable reraising or raising much preflop but tries to steal more postflop with these hands that missed.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:27 PM
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I didn't say he was a donkey necessarily. It might just be a person who isn't comfortable reraising or raising much preflop but tries to steal more postflop with these hands that missed.

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OK. But do you think he's calling a river VB with a worse hand? I doubt it.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Fold your boat sir.

Probably not, but it's possible. And I don't think he's folding a 7 unless you bet huge like OP did, and I think previous posts have stated why that's high risk low reward.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: Fold your boat sir.

He could have a jack here or aces, I hate shoving for this much.

TBH I think checking> shoving.
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