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#21
09-18-2007, 03:57 PM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
LOL minraise hijack
as for theorem, the example you gave was a pretty big overbet but very often, especially in an unraised pot, when someone bets over the pot on a board like this it is a draw. I have encountered this situation many, many times 
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#22
09-18-2007, 05:57 PM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
I would generally tend to think a bet like that represents a small flush, 2 pair, or a set more often than a draw. I guess it could be an overpair as well. It looks more like he is protecting against draws than betting for value.
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#24
09-18-2007, 07:16 PM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
I agree to an extent that such overbets often occur at micro and low limits. Indeed, a very transparent player will often overdonk a strong made hand in such a spot because he is so afraid of the draw. However, a smaller percentage of the time, a player will do the same thing with the Ac here. It doesnt apply in this case obviously as u have it. I like the idea, but I think it is also read dependent.
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#25
09-18-2007, 10:22 PM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
Uh, can somebody call the cops, my thread got hijacked...
I don't usually understand why donks do what they do, but I can't imagine overbetting the nut draw in this spot. Donks do some strange things!!!
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#26
09-18-2007, 11:16 PM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
[ QUOTE ]
Uh, can somebody call the cops, my thread got hijacked... I don't usually understand why donks do what they do, but I can't imagine overbetting the nut draw in this spot. Donks do some strange things!!! [/ QUOTE ] In the example he cannot have the nut draw, so it makes any draw less likely IMO
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#29
09-19-2007, 05:58 AM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
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Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> Button ($48.90) SB ($42.85) <font color="#C00000">BB ($38.40)</font> UTG ($29.00) MP1 ($13.75) MP2 ($52.20) <font color="#C00000">Landlord79 ($48.60)</font> Preflop: Landlord79 is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Landlord79 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50. Flop: ($4.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $7</font>, Landlord79... I'd like to theorize that on a 3 flushed or very drawy board, a huge over-donk bet that is designed to shut out all draws is always a strong made hand. Discuss... [/ QUOTE ] For a straightforward Tag, yes that's a good assumption. For Mr Trickyballs or a lag, often it's not.
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#30
09-21-2007, 08:21 PM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
I usually lead w/ any flush just because of this and because players expect you to slowplay it.
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