Analyzing stats for Finishing Positions

[Quetzo]

I think you need serveral tousand games before you might want to look at your finish distribution, at least before you make any conclusions based on it. But below I listed a few things that I think you should think about. It might just be variance, but you might have some leaks.

I think you should have a low number of seconds. If you have more seconds than firsts, you suck HU. If you have more seconds than place 3-5 you play too tight 3-5 handed.

You should bust the least at place 9, then 8, then 7 and do that with a pretty big marginal compared to other places and compared to each other or you play way too loose early.

When getting to the bubble you should get ITM about 75 %. If you have higher than that you might not get enough first, so stop sneaking ITM and get a little higher ROI. If you have lower you might push too tight 4-5 handed, meaning you get to play the bubble as a short stack (no FE and have to call wider) or you might call too loose, which give you more first since you get a big stack ITM, but it's not enough for all the times you bust fourth.

[MauMau]

1>5>3>2>6>4>7>8>9

am ok with that ;-) didnt even know i got most 1sts . lets hope it stays so or i can avoid the 5th places!!

[DevinLake]

ymu said what needed to be said.

when I played sngs my distro was something like 1=5>3>2>4 then the rest or something like that.

But everyone is going to be different.

[geo8o2]

obviously depends on buy in level

[Daddys_Visa]

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I think you need serveral tousand games before you might want to look at your finish distribution, at least before you make any conclusions based on it. But below I listed a few things that I think you should think about. It might just be variance, but you might have some leaks.

I think you should have a low number of seconds. If you have more seconds than firsts, you suck HU. If you have more seconds than place 3-5 you play too tight 3-5 handed.

You should bust the least at place 9, then 8, then 7 and do that with a pretty big marginal compared to other places and compared to each other or you play way too loose early.

When getting to the bubble you should get ITM about 75 %. If you have higher than that you might not get enough first, so stop sneaking ITM and get a little higher ROI. If you have lower you might push too tight 4-5 handed, meaning you get to play the bubble as a short stack (no FE and have to call wider) or you might call too loose, which give you more first since you get a big stack ITM, but it's not enough for all the times you bust fourth.

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It really depends on your average stack size when HU starts. You might be the best HU player in the world, but if you leak 3-handed and end up short-stacked frequently when HU starts, that might cause your distro to be 2>1.

And mine is:

1 - 142
2 - 125
3 - 122
4 - 129
5 - 140
6 - 125
7 - 104
8 - 79
9 - 50
10 - 34

For 15.1% after 1050 55s.

[ymu]

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It really depends on your average stack size when HU starts. You might be the best HU player in the world, but if you leak 3-handed and end up short-stacked frequently when HU starts, that might cause your distro to be 2>1.

And mine is:

1 - 142
2 - 125
3 - 122
4 - 129
5 - 140
6 - 125
7 - 104
8 - 79
9 - 50
10 - 34

For 15.1% after 1050 55s.

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You're bubbling too often and getting to ITM with a larger than optimal average stack size. Tighten up on the bubble and you should get a better ROI.

[Daddys_Visa]

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It really depends on your average stack size when HU starts. You might be the best HU player in the world, but if you leak 3-handed and end up short-stacked frequently when HU starts, that might cause your distro to be 2>1.

And mine is:

1 - 142
2 - 125
3 - 122
4 - 129
5 - 140
6 - 125
7 - 104
8 - 79
9 - 50
10 - 34

For 15.1% after 1050 55s.

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You're bubbling too often and getting to ITM with a larger than optimal average stack size. Tighten up on the bubble and you should get a better ROI.

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I have thought about that also. But I worry the resulting drop in firsts would offset the gain I would see in ITM%. As it stands right now, I am generally very aggressive 4-handed in an attempt to build a chip lead that I can exploit once ITM.

[justatrey]

2,454 6.50s

ITM: 41%

11/14/15/15 (3>5>4>2>6>7>8>9)

ROI: 7.3%

[censored]. This is what happens when you squeeze ITM all the time.

[ymu]

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It really depends on your average stack size when HU starts. You might be the best HU player in the world, but if you leak 3-handed and end up short-stacked frequently when HU starts, that might cause your distro to be 2>1.

And mine is:

1 - 142
2 - 125
3 - 122
4 - 129
5 - 140
6 - 125
7 - 104
8 - 79
9 - 50
10 - 34

For 15.1% after 1050 55s.

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You're bubbling too often and getting to ITM with a larger than optimal average stack size. Tighten up on the bubble and you should get a better ROI.

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I have thought about that also. But I worry the resulting drop in firsts would offset the gain I would see in ITM%. As it stands right now, I am generally very aggressive 4-handed in an attempt to build a chip lead that I can exploit once ITM.

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If you think that's the best approach for your game, no need to change it. In general, ROI will be optimised with more ITMs and a lot of 1sts and 3rds. If you play for the bigstack once you are ITM and tighten up a bit more on the bubble your profit should go up, because the average of the payouts for 1st and 3rd is more than the payout for 2nd.

[DevinLake]

ummm....he has 15.1% ROI at the $55s....what's the problem?