Sick satellite KK spot

[ryanghall]

I'm very surprised people are saying to fold this.

Sysonater has a much larger stack than saphire and therefore if he thinks saphire isn't berserk, he can be coming over the top of him with a fairly wide range. I'm NOT saying he SHOULD do this but people do weird things sometimes, especially in unfamiliar situations. Get it in!

Ryan

[Rekwob]

saying open shoving is the best course of action here is ridiculously results orientated

[ASPoker8]

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saying open shoving is the best course of action here is ridiculously awful

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[NYWalker]

Interesting spot. But I'm not folding KK here in 4-handed as the shortest stack. Raising 2K shows you wanted action and don't complain if you got too much action [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Without looking at stacksizes and the situation, it's a close decision of push/fold. They surely play like AA,KK to us because we only raise 2K and they see our raising range is wide. This is what we want them to think.

Assume sYs has AA, (to him)you two's ranges would be KK,AK,QQ, why sYs made the second re-raise in this 4-handed FT given his stacksize vs yours? it tells me sYs wants the other guy to fold and HU with you because of your stacksize doesn't hurt him and your open 2K is weak. saph re-raise's range is wide in 4 handed FT given your stack. Like others said, saph could only call with AA if you push, he may fold AA here given 3 spots getting paid.

Open push with KK is bad here.

[adanthar]

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Without looking at stacksizes

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in a sat, you just can't do that, period.

[Dawg24]

I dont think I could fold in this situation, but after reading the responces from adanthar and ZJ I can see why folding may be correct. The big stack knows we cannot tangle with him and so he could easily (20% likely??) be doing this with many holdings that are way behind KK. Our shove would show tremendous strength, everything folds except AA, four handed I like my chances, then when I lose I will complain about online poker being rigged...LOL...

[adanthar]

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Our shove would show tremendous strength, everything folds except AA

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Seat 3: Born2DogBaby (14732 in chips)
sYsonator: raises 6400 to 12000

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