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#21
08-24-2007, 11:11 AM
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Re: Mixed-up positions on lineup card...what happens?
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I'm about 80% sure that you can move off the mound and come back to pitch as long as you aren't removed from the game. [/ QUOTE ] Unless a rule has changed, you can. Someone used to do that, Lasorda maybe? He'd bring in a Loogy, then stash him in RF if the next batter was a righty and then have him pitch to the next lefty who came up. The only rules about in game swapping of positions that I know of are regarding the DH. 
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#22
08-24-2007, 11:11 AM
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Re: Mixed-up positions on lineup card...what happens?
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[ QUOTE ] I'm about 80% sure that you can move off the mound and come back to pitch as long as you aren't removed from the game. [/ QUOTE ] That situation never happened, but you're probably right. [/ QUOTE ] It has definitely happened.
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#23
08-24-2007, 11:19 AM
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Re: Mixed-up positions on lineup card...what happens?
Roster Expanders
[ QUOTE ] Lasorda Outfielders: This is one of the more complex ones to explain. Tommy Lasorda (and I’m sure others, but I remember Tommy doing this) would bring in a LOOGY. Then he’d bring in another reliever, but rather than burning his lefty by pulling him, he’d send him to the OF. When the next guy came up, the pitchers would swap places, saving bench slots. I guess that makes the LOOGY a TOOGY. [/ QUOTE ]
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#24
08-24-2007, 11:25 AM
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Re: Mixed-up positions on lineup card...what happens?
Box Score Met at Reds July 22, 1986
[ QUOTE ] PITCHING New York Mets IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str GB-FB GmSc IR-IS B Ojeda 5 6 3 3 1 4 2 2.26 21 - 7-2 46 - R Anderson 1.1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 6 - 4-0 0-0 R Myers 0.2 1 0 0 1 0 0 3.86 3 - 0-1 1-0 D Sisk 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 3.38 8 - 3-3 1-0 J Orosco 0.2 1 0 0 0 2 0 2.91 3 - 0-0 1-0 R McDowell, W (8-4) 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 2.28 4 - 2-0 1-0 J Orosco 1.1 2 0 0 0 1 0 2.91 5 - 0-1 1-0 R McDowell, W (8-4) 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2.28 6 - 5-1 1-0 Totals 14 14 3 3 3 7 2 56 - 21-8 6-0 [/ QUOTE ]
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#28
08-24-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: Mixed-up positions on lineup card...what happens?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm about 80% sure that you can move off the mound and come back to pitch as long as you aren't removed from the game. [/ QUOTE ] That situation never happened, but you're probably right. [/ QUOTE ] It has definitely happened. [/ QUOTE ] I meant in a game I played in.
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#30
08-24-2007, 01:25 PM
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Re: Mixed-up positions on lineup card...what happens?
No, you cannot get a win or save in the same game.
One of the specific criterila for getting a save is that it must not be the pitcher who is getting the win. noodleman beat me to the clip of the box-score from '86. I was in attendance at that Reds/Mets game as some of you evidently remember from previous posts. It was awesome and my scoresheet was ridiculous. Mets used various subs in the 8th and 9th and came back to tie it in the 9th when Dave Parker dropped a routine fly doing that little flippy-catch thing of his. In the 10th Eric Davis slid in clieats-high to Ray Knight at 3rd. Ray Knight punched Eric Davis in the face and the teams had a huge 15-minute bench-clearing brawl. Pretty crazy brawl as opposed to your routine "benches clear but nothing really happens" type of incident. This incident also turned Ray Knight from 'super-popular former Red' to 'most hated in Cincinnati' status. The Reds lost guys like starting-pitchers who didn't matter. John Denny and Mario Soto were among them as I recall. The Mets lost key position players including Ray Knight and Kevin Mitchell and since they had already used plenty of subs they were kind of screwed. So....put McDowell in RF and Orosco stays on the mound. Also put an awkward looking Gary Carter at 3B. Then switch Orosco out to RF and then put McDowell on the mound. Then when Dave Parker comes to bat switch Orosco over to LF for just one batter, switch Mookie Wilson from LF to RF, and leave Lenny Dykstra in CF. Then have Parker fly-out the opposite way anyway and laugh as a scared-to-death Orosco successfully makes the catch somehow to record the out. Then switch Orosco back to RF and Mookie back to LF. Then bring Orosco back in for an inning to pitch and put McDowell back in RF. Then switch McDowell for Orosco again. Then Howard Johnson hits a HR in the 14th inning to finally win the thing. This game was absolutely insane and both the Reds and Mets announcers ranked it among their favorites of all-time. Some box-scores just show: Orosco 2ip McDowell 3ip and it doesn't alternate them for each time they rotated back and forth.
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