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Old 03-01-2006, 09:45 AM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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"Me thinks the big guy got owned here."

think again! i called after much deliberating and gabe mucked face down.
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:15 PM
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call and thank the man for his money. looks like a complete bs bet to me. everyone and his mother knows the 10 didn't change anything.
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: another tough spot in another small pot against a 2+2er

Fold preflop. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:37 PM
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You bet the river, placing a full big bet in the pot despite facing 3 players. That takes some courage. Sure, you might be stealing, but if you are, you deserve to win the pot, because you are putting a lot of money at risk relative to the payoff. You know that there is a decent chance that somebody is going to look you up, and you bet anyways.

In light of that, it's difficult to believe that Gabe should be willing to risk 2 big bets to win 3 here very often. After all, how many people are going to tell you to call? Lots.

You have been playing tight. Gabe has been playing passively. Why would you now think that Gabe is going to suddenly come alive and put a big move on a tight player in a small pot? You made a thin value bet and got raised. Fold.

-Eric

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awesome analysis. would not really be good spot for gabe to take a shot at you even if he is convinced u are stabbing. risk/reward ratio just aint there. Bad decision to bet out on riv and another bad decision to call.

and now that ive finished the thread, i see another bad decision by gabe was wedged in between. and i thought u guys were good...
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:08 PM
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"Me thinks the big guy got owned here."

think again! i called after much deliberating and gabe mucked face down.

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Hehe. Gabe=donk.

You should have quoted the rest of what I said since it was correct. I should have stuck with my thinking in stead of listing to lmd. This is the part I mean:

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The obvious problem is that it is tough to imagine gabe would be willing to let the turn check through when such a blank card hits. If he has a J or T he lets 3 guys draw to what has to be a bunch of combined outs.

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Old 03-01-2006, 03:44 PM
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I see a lot of people calling this river with all sorts of garbage. It just seems like such a strange bet, that mike can't possibly have anything. So I think it's a good value bet as it's extremely unlikely anybody has anything here.
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Old 03-01-2006, 05:19 PM
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"and i thought u guys were good..."

lol think again!
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Old 03-01-2006, 06:47 PM
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Good call: these feel like sucker calls but it's hard to imagine why he would check the river with a good hand - unless he's sure no-one will look him up. But that said he would/should have bet his A-10, J-10, 10x hands before the river. So its hard to put him on a sensible hand here.


I'm not sure I like the bet either - except to set up a bluff raise - I'd prefer to check to induce a bluff. You're in a good stealing opportunity; that's quite a good reason to check you're weak hand, unless you think folk will look you up with much worse.
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Old 03-01-2006, 07:34 PM
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Gabe never ever ever has a good hand here. There are no hands that beat Q5 that Gabe plays this way.
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