NAFTA etc no longer can hold back inflation?

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Let us not forget that the Walton family also gave every American family who chooses to shop at Wal-Mart a break of about $5k-$6k in grocery prices annually. If you make $16k a year, you are understandably appreciative that you can save $6k of your hard earned money by shopping at Wal-Mart, not to mention lower prices on other essentials, such as clothes, shoes, and pharmaceutical needs. No one has mentioned that Wal-Mart has begun offering many essential generic drugs at prices ranging from $4-$8 for a month's supply. I'm sure America's poor hate getting their drugs at prices that should make CVS blush in shame.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but are you not in effect saying that if today was America during the Industrial Revolution,
and all these benefits we reap from labor outside the U.S. came from human rights abuses within the U.S., that you would be in favor of the practices during that time since it was giving you a much better way of life?

You do realize that if you answer yes, then you are subscribing to having your 12 yr old work 10 hrs a day in sweat shops. Or, would you only be subscribing to the practices as o.k., since you would be able to ensure it would only be your neighbors' kids that worked in the sweatshops?

I believe what is going on today, is the closest thing we have seen to slave labor, in mass, in my lifetime. That is why the foreign businesses have to hide their doings.

In addition, you have people working for wal-mart, at wages so low that they cannot afford their health care (my wife pays less than they do and works for a much smaller company)
and has to obtain care thru the federal govt., and then turn around and spend their whole paycheck at the place where they work so that they can save those thousands you talk about, which by the way, you inflated.

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Let us not forget that the Walton family also gave every American family who chooses to shop at Wal-Mart a break of about $5k-$6k in grocery prices annually. If you make $16k a year, you are understandably appreciative that you can save $6k of your hard earned money by shopping at Wal-Mart, not to mention lower prices on other essentials, such as clothes, shoes, and pharmaceutical needs. No one has mentioned that Wal-Mart has begun offering many essential generic drugs at prices ranging from $4-$8 for a month's supply. I'm sure America's poor hate getting their drugs at prices that should make CVS blush in shame.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but are you not in effect saying that if today was America during the Industrial Revolution,
and all these benefits we reap from labor outside the U.S. came from human rights abuses within the U.S., that you would be in favor of the practices during that time since it was giving you a much better way of life?

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You are wrong. What I am saying is that I don't believe it. The video strikes me as propaganda filled anti-capitalist liberal BS, and nothing more.

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You do realize that if you answer yes, then you are subscribing to having your 12 yr old work 10 hrs a day in sweat shops. Or, would you only be subscribing to the practices as o.k., since you would be able to ensure it would only be your neighbors' kids that worked in the sweatshops?

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While sweatshops are certainly a problem, I still and have always believed they are an exaggerated problem. Furthermore, it is foolish to believe they aren't running here in America. That isn't the point.

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I believe what is going on today, is the closest thing we have seen to slave labor, in mass, in my lifetime. That is why the foreign businesses have to hide their doings.

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This is utterly offensive to me. I would strongly suggest you research what is going on in Sudan before making such statements. That is slavery.

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In addition, you have people working for wal-mart, at wages so low that they cannot afford their health care (my wife pays less than they do and works for a much smaller company)
and has to obtain care thru the federal govt., and then turn around and spend their whole paycheck at the place where they work so that they can save those thousands you talk about, which by the way, you inflated.

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Well, I guess it's time to go to war with McDonalds. They pay less than Wal-Mart. Lets go after Ace Hardware. The employees their make less than Wal-Mart. I have an idea! Lets abolish Capitalism, give everyone the same amount of money every month, no matter what they do, and totally destroy all productivity in this country! [Sarcasm]

If the people employed at Wal-Mart are unhappy with their lot in life, they should do what I did. Bust their asses, go to night school, learn a trade, and get out. FYI, I worked at Wal-Mart. Did it suck? Hell yes it did. That is called "Motivation" my friend.

I refuse to accept the notion that Wal-Mart is unfair for paying a man who runs an automatic floor sweeper through the store on graveyard less money than the CEO is paid. That is what this is really all about, not sweatshops, not slavery, not human rights. That is the point I'm trying to drive home.

This anti-Wal-Mart movement was started by socialists with an agenda, not people who care about "human rights". Is there evil in the world? Of course. Can it be exposed to improve the world? Absolutely. Can it be exploited to destroy capitalism? Yes it can. I have a degree in Mass Communications/Broadcast Journalism. I worked in a news room for around eighteen months before becoming utterly disgusted by what I saw. No one knows better than I that a good writer/director/anchor can take a story, include just enough fact to keep themselves off the staff of World News Weekly, and transform it into something that barely resembles the truth. I would suggest you not swallow every piece of left wing propaganda that comes your way.

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This is utterly offensive to me. I would strongly suggest you research what is going on in Sudan before making such statements. That is slavery.

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I knew I was probably making a mistake when I typed this statement. Let me rephrase it to read: The closest thing to slavery today, by mass, within the 7 industrialized nations.

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You are wrong. What I am saying is that I don't believe it. The video strikes me as propaganda filled anti-capitalist liberal BS, and nothing more.

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I guess this is a bunch of "anti-capitalist liberal BS" also?
http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=vi...;language_id=1

Industrial Riots Reveal Bangladesh's Crisis of Govt.

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Between May 20 and 24, the South Asian country of Bangladesh underwent the most severe and widespread industrial rioting in its history, as workers in its booming textile export industry torched 16 factories, ransacked 300 more and went on a general rampage, destroying cars, blocking roads, intimidating perceived adversaries and looting.

These cheap labor slaves that allow us to get our goods on the cheap are going to rise up in mass and it will not be long before we are paying the same price would we have been paying without NAFTA.

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"Between May 20 and 24, the South Asian country of Bangladesh underwent the most severe and widespread industrial rioting in its history, as workers in its booming textile export industry torched 16 factories, ransacked 300 more and went on a general rampage, destroying cars, blocking roads, intimidating perceived adversaries and looting."

Idiots, I'm sure they will be much happier when foreign investment pulls out of their country and instead of working for a low wage, they work for no wage and starve to death.

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"Between May 20 and 24, the South Asian country of Bangladesh underwent the most severe and widespread industrial rioting in its history, as workers in its booming textile export industry torched 16 factories, ransacked 300 more and went on a general rampage, destroying cars, blocking roads, intimidating perceived adversaries and looting."

Idiots, I'm sure they will be much happier when foreign investment pulls out of their country and instead of working for a low wage, they work for no wage and starve to death.

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If investment does pull out, won't it just give the people of the remaining countries that provide the same labor, more weight when they strike?

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that how the unions in the U.S. brought the greedy businesses to their knees after having taken advantage of the labor pool for so long after the industrial revolution?

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"Between May 20 and 24, the South Asian country of Bangladesh underwent the most severe and widespread industrial rioting in its history, as workers in its booming textile export industry torched 16 factories, ransacked 300 more and went on a general rampage, destroying cars, blocking roads, intimidating perceived adversaries and looting."

Idiots, I'm sure they will be much happier when foreign investment pulls out of their country and instead of working for a low wage, they work for no wage and starve to death.

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If investment does pull out, won't it just give the people of the remaining countries that provide the same labor, more weight when they strike?

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that how the unions in the U.S. brought the greedy businesses to their knees after having taken advantage of the labor pool for so long after the industrial revolution?

[/ QUOTE ]Q1 -- Theoretically, but there are so many countries anxious to attract this investment that this would take centuries to play out. And the multitude of humanity that would starve and die as a result of these strikes would be nothing to celebrate.

Just take the lead of Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore and S Korea: decades ago, these were all cheap labor destinations; now, they're some of the most vibrant economies on Earth.

Q2 -- And look how great the American laborer has fared 75 years later. They've choked their employers to death and now their greatest cities are rotting in despair.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that how the unions in the U.S. brought the greedy businesses to their knees after having taken advantage of the labor pool for so long after the industrial revolution?

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You are wrong, unions gained a lot of their power by violently assaulting non union workers (the ones that brought industry to their knees at least).

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"Between May 20 and 24, the South Asian country of Bangladesh underwent the most severe and widespread industrial rioting in its history, as workers in its booming textile export industry torched 16 factories, ransacked 300 more and went on a general rampage, destroying cars, blocking roads, intimidating perceived adversaries and looting."

Idiots, I'm sure they will be much happier when foreign investment pulls out of their country and instead of working for a low wage, they work for no wage and starve to death.

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If investment does pull out, won't it just give the people of the remaining countries that provide the same labor, more weight when they strike?

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that how the unions in the U.S. brought the greedy businesses to their knees after having taken advantage of the labor pool for so long after the industrial revolution?

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What are they going to strike? burning down their places of employment? if there is no money to invest to start these factories, how are they going to be employed in the first place. It is really telling how bad of an agenda you socialists have when you aren't willing to say one word about the government that allows this to happen in these foreign countries, but rather bitch that "walmart doesn't give enough of the MONEY THAT IT EARNED away". If YOU want to give away your money to help people, fine, do what you want, but where do you get off thinking you have any right to make others do the same?

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"Between May 20 and 24, the South Asian country of Bangladesh underwent the most severe and widespread industrial rioting in its history, as workers in its booming textile export industry torched 16 factories, ransacked 300 more and went on a general rampage, destroying cars, blocking roads, intimidating perceived adversaries and looting."

Idiots, I'm sure they will be much happier when foreign investment pulls out of their country and instead of working for a low wage, they work for no wage and starve to death.

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If investment does pull out, won't it just give the people of the remaining countries that provide the same labor, more weight when they strike?

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that how the unions in the U.S. brought the greedy businesses to their knees after having taken advantage of the labor pool for so long after the industrial revolution?

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What are they going to strike? burning down their places of employment? if there is no money to invest to start these factories, how are they going to be employed in the first place. It is really telling how bad of an agenda you socialists have when you aren't willing to say one word about the government that allows this to happen in these foreign countries, but rather bitch that "walmart doesn't give enough of the MONEY THAT IT EARNED away". If YOU want to give away your money to help people, fine, do what you want, but where do you get off thinking you have any right to make others do the same?

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We have every right to try and convince others to do the same.