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08-19-2007, 08:38 PM
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200 NL. My top 2 gets raised on the river. I feel like throwing up.
Villain is like 35/12, but he has laid down a big hand against me earlier in the session.
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $180.40 Hero (BB): $353.00 UTG: $48.85 UTG+1: $48.00 MP1: $176.50 MP2: $142.80 MP3: $202.90 CO: $79.20 BTN: $441.80 Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9 Players) 2 folds, MP1 calls $2.00, 4 folds, SB calls $1.00, Hero checks Flop: ($6) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, MP1 calls $6.00, SB folds Turn: ($18) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, MP1 calls $15.00 River: ($48) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $30.00</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $153.00</font>, [i]Hero throws up and ? 
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#2
08-19-2007, 09:05 PM
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Re: 200 NL. My top 2 gets raised on the river. I feel like throwing up
this plays pretty much exactly like 56 or 78, both definitely in his range...occasional low set...don't see a bluff here too often...2:1 on the call...i'm not quite sure what i'd do here actually. it REALLY looks like 56 a lot of the time. tight spot, could go either way because of his donk-like pf stats.
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#3
08-19-2007, 09:15 PM
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Re: 200 NL. My top 2 gets raised on the river. I feel like throwing up
Why on earth did u bet this river? What worse hands call? All i can think of is 42 and maybe some other funky two pair, but not sure if J4s or 84s are in his range...
As played, just fold.
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#4
08-19-2007, 09:19 PM
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Re: 200 NL. My top 2 gets raised on the river. I feel like throwing up
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Why on earth did u bet this river? What worse hands call? All i can think of is 42 and maybe some other funky two pair, but not sure if J4s or 84s are in his range... As played, just fold. [/ QUOTE ] Fish will call with all kinds of hands. This guy is pretty loose, and I haven't made a big bet on the river. The only real draw got there, so I don't feel like I'm going to get raised as a bluff here. I just need to decide whether or not he's raising for value with a worse hand. Are you advocating check/folding the river?
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#5
08-19-2007, 09:44 PM
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Re: 200 NL. My top 2 gets raised on the river. I feel like throwing up
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[ QUOTE ] Why on earth did u bet this river? What worse hands call? All i can think of is 42 and maybe some other funky two pair, but not sure if J4s or 84s are in his range... As played, just fold. [/ QUOTE ] Fish will call with all kinds of hands. This guy is pretty loose, and I haven't made a big bet on the river. The only real draw got there, so I don't feel like I'm going to get raised as a bluff here. I just need to decide whether or not he's raising for value with a worse hand. Are you advocating check/folding the river? [/ QUOTE ] I would just c/c unless he has been really passive postflop and makes a big river bet, then i c/f. I just dont see villain calling with A8 or similar, but hey, if thats your read, then leading is fine.
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#7
08-20-2007, 05:11 AM
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Re: 200 NL. My top 2 gets raised on the river. I feel like throwing up
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Why on earth did u bet this river? What worse hands call? All i can think of is 42 and maybe some other funky two pair, but not sure if J4s or 84s are in his range... As played, just fold. [/ QUOTE ] If you don't bet here against these types of loose opponents then you are losing loads of value.
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#8
08-20-2007, 05:16 AM
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Re: 200 NL. My top 2 gets raised on the river. I feel like throwing up
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[ QUOTE ] Why on earth did u bet this river? What worse hands call? All i can think of is 42 and maybe some other funky two pair, but not sure if J4s or 84s are in his range... As played, just fold. [/ QUOTE ] If you don't bet here against these types of loose opponents then you are losing loads of value. [/ QUOTE ] Can people give villain a calling range. This thread is blowing my mind.
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#9
08-20-2007, 05:31 AM
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Re: 200 NL. My top 2 gets raised on the river. I feel like throwing up
if no one is ever calling here without a set or better then do you just run three barrel bluffs all day and all night? cuz ppl don't make sets and straights very often so by your arguments you should be winning a whole [censored] of pots with air
but you want to check and call, so you think he's gonna valuebet one pair but he won't call with it? no wai
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#10
08-20-2007, 08:09 PM
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Re: 200 NL. My top 2 gets raised on the river. I feel like throwing up
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Why on earth did u bet this river? What worse hands call? All i can think of is 42 and maybe some other funky two pair, but not sure if J4s or 84s are in his range... As played, just fold. [/ QUOTE ] Have u ever played online poker or even poker, PEOPLE CALL WITH ANYTHING. Suggesting not to bet that river is just VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVERY dumb
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