stars 200NL - weird spot with 999

[centgas]

Not got time to do any sums or elaborate until tomorrow, but a quick thought of c/r turn went through my head, anyone?

[Cue-Ball 66]

I don't think c/c river is bad at all tbh.

[BDaws]

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Not got time to do any sums or elaborate until tomorrow, but a quick thought of c/r turn went through my head, anyone?

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I don't really like this. He is probably going to check behind with a good amount of hands that would call a bet. Most Kx hands are checking behind which is bad because most of them would call a bet because the A doesn't change OP's range too much if he is double barreling with any frequency.

Even though there are 3 clubs on board and Kx hands might be tempted to bet for value against draws, what hands are really c/c a turn bet? The only hands that really c/c a turn bet are Ax type hands going for pot control. Any decent club draws, say QcXx would have improved on the turn to gutters+NFD or pairs+NFD and are likely double barreling. If you have Kx, especially with a club kicker, you have Hero's range for checking the turn drawing close to dead, or you are behind so there's no reason to bet.

Ehh, now that I think of it, it might not be a bad idea to bet with Kx if you don't have a club kicker to protect against an underpair with a club stealing the pot and hitting an 11 outer, but I still think turn is a check.

Also, c/r AI on turn guarantees you get stacks in the middle behind against a flush where as SN might slowplay a high club flush and give you a shot at your 10 outer.

[nuggetz87]

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Not got time to do any sums or elaborate until tomorrow, but a quick thought of c/r turn went through my head, anyone?

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I don't really like this. He is probably going to check behind with a good amount of hands that would call a bet. Most Kx hands are checking behind which is bad because most of them would call a bet because the A doesn't change OP's range too much if he is double barreling with any frequency.

Even though there are 3 clubs on board and Kx hands might be tempted to bet for value against draws, what hands are really c/c a turn bet? The only hands that really c/c a turn bet are Ax type hands going for pot control. Any decent club draws, say QcXx would have improved on the turn to gutters+NFD or pairs+NFD and are likely double barreling. If you have Kx, especially with a club kicker, you have Hero's range for checking the turn drawing close to dead, or you are behind so there's no reason to bet.

Ehh, now that I think of it, it might not be a bad idea to bet with Kx if you don't have a club kicker to protect against an underpair with a club stealing the pot and hitting an 11 outer, but I still think turn is a check.

Also, c/r AI on turn guarantees you get stacks in the middle behind against a flush where as SN might slowplay a high club flush and give you a shot at your 10 outer.

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QFT checking turn is junk especially since he's checking behind turn with Kx but also almost definitely calling a bet vs. any decent aggressive player.

also could be checking behind more than Kx.