Dealer Tokes = Big $?

[MicroBob]

Lighten-up everyone.
It really isn't that rude a question.

How much do teachers make?
Really?!?!
Any teachers here who can confirm/deny?

Not a big deal.

[psandman]

[ QUOTE ]
Lighten-up everyone.
It really isn't that rude a question.

How much do teachers make?
Really?!?!
Any teachers here who can confirm/deny?

Not a big deal.

[/ QUOTE ]

First of all, there is a world of difference between asking a question like how much do teachers make, and hey you teachers out there please tell me how much you make. ut using teachers is a bad example, because most teachers are suckling at the public tit and as a result because they are government employees paid by tax dollars there salaries are actually matters of public record.

as to your telling us to lighten up. Its not like I went on a rampage against the OP, in fact I think I have triued to answer his questions as best I could without compromising my personal financial information. I simply note that it is generally not considered polite to ask people these sorts of details. Much like asking a lady how old she is or how much she weighs.

[RR]

[ QUOTE ]
44 is an unreachable number unless there aren't alot of flops.

[/ QUOTE ]

I know quite a few that can reach using a shuffler.

[psandman]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
44 is an unreachable number unless there aren't alot of flops.

[/ QUOTE ]

I know quite a few that can reach using a shuffler.

[/ QUOTE ]

You mean that can deal that many hands? or can average that many hands?

[Fnord]

The first cardroom where I regularly played LHE was a small room in Seattle that ran mostly 4/8 with 3-4 tables of bigger games up to 12/24 on any given night.

About half the dealer pool played (sometimes even proped) and they were bad, but by no means the super-donators. Lots of technical mistakes like cold-calling offsuit broadways, missing value raises, missing river bets, checking their BB without even looking (for deception, local experts said this was the best play), etc. In a game where one or two players are spewing off racks throwing a big party, that sort of play can't be too far from break-even, maybe even winning. Also, their familiarity with the player pool probably helped a lot.

For that player in that game @ 4/8, dropping two racks of Blue wouldn't be a big deal.

[52s]

This is using the Vegas system of a poker down = 30 minutes (some places in other states/countries have 20 or 40 minutes).

The absolute maximum a dealer will deal in a full 8-hour shift is 6 1/2 hours. Doing so would involve 4-ball, break, 4-ball, break, 4-ball, break, 1 table and out (4-ball being dealer code for "4 table string"). There are extreme 7-hour cases, but that's the extreme.

More than likely a dealer will deal 5 1/2-6 hours during the average full 8-hour shift.

In an average down the average dealer should be able to get out 15-20 hands (preferably 17-18+). Some of this attributes to whether or not the house has automatic card shufflers, but the number is mostly all player and game dependent. I personally could have a down where I rip out 23-25 hands because the game is going quick, and then have the next down have all of 12 hands because the action is going slow.

So, 15-20 hands times 11-12 downs gives a range of 165-240 hands per day.

Average tip per hand? The safe number is $1. There are the players that tip $1 per hand. There are those that stiff. And there are those that tip greatly. Some houses the average tip could be a little more, but not $2. $2 a hand? It's doable on some nights where a big tipper or one big tip or one crazy table jacks up the average, but not on a night-to-night basis. EDIT: Again, there may be some very extreme cases. Or the dealer is a hot piece of ass with a great set of [censored].

So, well, I hope everyone can do that math.

BUT, that is based on a dealer doing 8-hour shifts every day in his/her workweek, which is simply not the case.

There are early outs and force outs (for when a room is overstaffed for the number of games/breaks available - early out is a dealer-requested option to get on a list to leave early, the force out is the shift manager/person-in-charge telling the dealer to go home). Days off. Vacation (where the dealer only gets paid their ~min wage from the casino, no tip $$$ there on the check like the pit gets). And other factors.

[RR]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
44 is an unreachable number unless there aren't alot of flops.

[/ QUOTE ]

I know quite a few that can reach using a shuffler.

[/ QUOTE ]

You mean that can deal that many hands? or can average that many hands?

[/ QUOTE ]

It is hard to average that because occasionally there will be a really crappy down. I guess a better way to say that is I know some dealers that can reach 22 hands a down as a median.

[Photoc]

Dealers can make anywhere from 0 to 70k a year. It all varies with countless variables as it is. None of which I am going to bring up because a little thought into it would answer that question. Any dealer who says they make 50-75/hour for 8 hours is full of it. If dealers were making that much, tons more people would be jumping at it.

[Wongboy]

[ QUOTE ]
I am just wondering how this guy might make ends meet. I've never seen him win. He usually walks away stuck for $100+.

OT: On another note I am curious as how 18 year olds can afford to play 3 days a week or more, but that can be another discussion.

[/ QUOTE ]

I hear that gay porn pays really well.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Your estimate is way high, especially 45 hands/hour. While many dealers can deal that fast, rarely do the players PLAY that fast. Also, if you count the stiffs, stolen blinds etc $1/hand is far more likely to be accurate than $1-3/hand. Also, most dealers don't work their whole shift every day. Still, dealing is a darn good job.