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Old 08-15-2007, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - so lost

turn crai is good. turn c/c is meh. turn c/f is crap.
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - so lost

I don't know what everyone is on about, but you have to raise more preflop, and then you are done with the hand 4-handed after that flop.
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:18 PM
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turn crai is good. turn c/c is meh. turn c/f is crap.

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Yeah, cause nobody ever has a K here. I mean, there are two on the board n stuff, what are the chances a third one is out??? And as for a set 4-handed, fughetaboutit. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Unless you are relying on your zero fold equity, of course. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:35 PM
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Yeah, cause nobody ever has a K here

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rebuyboy definitely hasn't, and id be very surprised if BB does.

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And as for a set 4-handed, fughetaboutit.

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rebuyboy almost never has, and its unlikely BB does.

Your thinking of 'oh it's 4 handed so someone has to have something' is stupid, look at the way the betting has gone.

So yeah, always ahead of rebuyboy, and smashing BB's range (I think he calls a shove with 88-TT, which makes alot of sense from how he's played the hand) so im thinking a shove it good.

See pineapple, that's how u articulate your thoughts, unlike the juvenile tone you used in your post.
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:40 PM
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turn crai is good. turn c/c is meh. turn c/f is crap.

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Yeah, cause nobody ever has a K here. I mean, there are two on the board n stuff, what are the chances a third one is out??? And as for a set 4-handed, fughetaboutit. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Unless you are relying on your zero fold equity, of course. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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pineapple, your advice is nitty and lame at best.

and as for fold equity, lol. this push is strictly for value against the drooler. rebuyboy pretty much never has a K here and likely either has a mid PP that has not setted up or possibly a flush draw. drooler has a mid/small PP often and from the sounds of it will happily stack off given the action.

im not saying that you wont ever see a K or a set here, but the likelihood of it given the action, weighed up against the likelihood of being ahead and the drooler being willing to call a push with a worse PP makes shoving here fine imo.
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:24 PM
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spect, why cant I have QQ?
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:40 PM
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spect, why cant I have QQ?

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coz u 4bet preflop?
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - so lost

i would call this turn if it was a heads up pot. But when mp called in not liking ur hand that much
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:06 PM
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i would call this turn if it was a heads up pot. But when mp called in not liking ur hand that much

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MP rarely has a hand that beats us

ive already been through this multiple times

if u disagree then please provide reasoning
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:08 PM
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I would call this turn if it was heads up pot.

Seeing as rebuyboy called in the middle makes it interesting. I think c/r AI has its merits but I don't think i could do it and I think fold is fine.

I'm gonna just guess rebuyboy had Ax and assumed BB was FOS and OP wouldn't overcall.
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