+/- EV of this call?

[Boquense]

I can always rebuy :P

[ddubois]

So this range is 40% combos overpair under a T, 20% combos worse ace high, 20% combos flush draw, 20% combos ace with pair:

Hand 0: 57.622% 53.31% 04.31% 6861 555.00 { 88, A9s, A4s, KsQs, 9s8s }
Hand 1: 42.378% 38.07% 04.31% 4899 555.00 { AhTc }

Hand 0: 54.106% 49.96% 04.15% 6430 533.50 { 88, A9s, A4s, KsQs, 9s8s }
Hand 1: 45.894% 41.75% 04.15% 5373 533.50 { AhJs }

[raze]

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You do realize Raze that if he turns KsQs face up and pushes I call right?


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Yea, that's cool, but we're talking about his whole range here right? I don't have Pokerstove or the desire to bust out a calculator at the moment, but KQss in particular would probably be about a neutral call for you, and I mentioned above that I feel his range is going to be weighted towards better hands than KQss.

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Obviously this is not my standard play in this situation.
And maybe it's a negative EV play, and that's why I came to you guys, but just dismissing it as WTF FISH AT OMGFOADSUF is pretty shortsighted.

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If you mean me, you better relax because I gave you a pretty thoughtful and respectful reply, and I don't think anyone here called you a fish.

[DJ Sensei]

i'd say the onus is on you to provide a reasonable range of hands for him against which you can profitably call

[Boquense]

I'd give a little higher % to fd, naked 6, or 6 with a pair, and also alot something for complete air, but yeah, something like that.

[raze]

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i'd say the onus is on you to provide a reasonable range of hands for him against which you can profitably call

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I like that idea

[Boquense]

Read thread, I did that.

Oh, here...

A9,A8,A7,A6,A6s,A7s,A8s,A9s,7s8s,9s8s,JsTs,QsJs,Qs Ks,KsJs,QsTs,Qs9s,Ks9s,KsTs,Js9s,Js8s,Qs8s,77,88,9 9,
+random 6 draws, other spade draws, complete air.

[teh_mewse]

Best case scenario: He has Air. Too bad YOU HAVE AIR TOO.

This is HUGELY -ev.

[tcorbin16]

this is so gross.

[bigbabyjesus]

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Read thread, I did that.

Oh, here...

A9,A8,A7,A6,A6s,A7s,A8s,A9s,7s8s,9s8s,JsTs,QsJs,Qs Ks,KsJs,QsTs,Qs9s,Ks9s,KsTs,Js9s,Js8s,Qs8s,77,88,9 9,
+random 6 draws, other spade draws, complete air.

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He probably plays any made hand like this on the flop (at least I would.) I would play TT-AA, any set, any two pair like this (and I'd probably call u 3-bet monkeys w/ [censored] like 43s in position.)