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Old 08-07-2007, 09:01 PM
DaCooler DaCooler is offline
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Why not just bet out here and if he pushes decide whether he has AA or KK , a lot of players like to just flat call the 4 bet preflop with AA or KK in hopes of a trap where the guy stacks off with JJ QQ

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so your saying just call the 3bet than bet the flop and fold to a push?
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:32 PM
Boquense Boquense is offline
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Why not just bet out here and if he pushes decide whether he has AA or KK , a lot of players like to just flat call the 4 bet preflop with AA or KK in hopes of a trap where the guy stacks off with JJ QQ

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so your saying just call the 3bet than bet the flop and fold to a push?

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God no.
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: QQ 4 bet pot, flop action

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IMO, 4betting QQ sucks hard 95% of the time. There's very little value to it, as you never fold out better and rarely get called by worse. Flatcalling the 3bet has so much more value there, as you are essentially underrepping your hand/QQ is at the very top of your CC range.

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Having a tight, narrow range, with QQ at the top of it, is a very bad thing, not a very good thing.

You aren't underrepping your hand here at all by calling. I usually default to putting players on JJ-QQ when they CC a 3bet from the SB/BB.

Playing with your cards face up == bad.

And, by the way, if you CC here with a wide range, lol is that even fishier.
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: QQ 4 bet pot, flop action

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although i should say c/c is obviously an option.

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You think he'll bluff AK, or value bet TT or JJ? I'm curious on this line after 4betting.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: QQ 4 bet pot, flop action

I cant figure out a way i dont get stacked here unless UTG is a huge NIT and i KNOW that, anyone else see a different outcome?
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