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Old 08-07-2007, 01:48 PM
nutstoyou nutstoyou is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 re-steal...Well that\'s the board I wanted...isn\'t it??

I don't like not betting the turn. The 9d on the turn probably didn't change anything.

Now he may think his mid-pair is good, or you're bluffing, so you have to jam, but it's a tough decision. I think he could easily have AK and play it the way he did. Calling your reraise with AK and having the button is a great way to stack you.
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 re-steal...Well that\'s the board I wanted...isn\'t it??

this is one of the few times the line "if you reraise KQ you have to go broke here" ACTUALLY applies.
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 re-steal...Well that\'s the board I wanted...isn\'t it??

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this is one of the few times the line "if you reraise KQ you have to go broke here" ACTUALLY applies.

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This is even more true after he chooses to check the turn. Not that I think a bet/fold would've been reasonable or anything, but I'm just saying.
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 re-steal...Well that\'s the board I wanted...isn\'t it??

he hit K9
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 re-steal...Well that\'s the board I wanted...isn\'t it??

Pre is fine, my bad, but why is this guy betting the turn? Was he on a total float? Did he have KJ or KT? These are the only reasons I can see to get it in on the turn, unless you think he would randomly play QQ like this.

I think bet/calling turn is good though.
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 re-steal...Well that\'s the board I wanted...isn\'t it??

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this is one of the many times the line "if you reraise KQ you have to go broke here" ACTUALLY applies.

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Old 08-07-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 re-steal...Well that\'s the board I wanted...isn\'t it??

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Fairly anti-climactic, but Hero folded to his $3K turn bet and resigned himself to a night of nursing his tender vag.

I feel OK about the fold for a few reasons (but still thought it was a close decision):
I was thinking on turn that I'd check and see what villain did, but I realize now that that's just my poor man's excuse for not having a solid plan for after he acted. I read his $3K bet (leaving himself only 1.6K behind) as a very strong bet that was screaming for a call. My thinking was more or less similar to KOD's in this thread: all I really thought I beat was a mid-pair and *maybe* KJ (altho unlikely). Given that I wasn't all that impressed with his play to that point and that I had yet to really see him pull any moves post-flop, I just decided that I'd find a better spot to get it in against the guy. I thought it was a tough spot, although the responses in this thread seem to be pretty polarized as to it being an easy decision one way or another (mostly leaning toward getting it in)
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Old 08-07-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 re-steal...Well that\'s the board I wanted...isn\'t it??

leaving himself 1.6K says to me more like "why bluff it all when I can just bluff 3K" and also "pushing looks more desperate to get a fold, I'll leave myself a bit to make it look like I'm not wanting a fold". not saying he wouldnt make that bet with a made hand, just saying that i wouldnt be at all surprised that IF he were bluffing, that would be his bet size.
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Old 08-07-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 re-steal...Well that\'s the board I wanted...isn\'t it??

yeah betting 3k looks like he picked up a draw or something, but no matter if he bets 500, 1500, 3k, or all-in I really don't see how you fold this
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