More 3-bet pot fun - Page 3

Mike MacIntosh · #21 08-02-2007, 05:03 PM

What are most villains calling a 3bet OOP with?

22-AA, AJ+, KJ+, QT+, and sc's?

orange · #22 08-02-2007, 05:20 PM

shoving is hardly 'terrible'.

bilbo-san · #23 08-02-2007, 05:26 PM

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shoving is terrible.

Your hand has showdown value, is upderrepped, and villain isn't folding anything nearly enough to make it profitable.

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Well, if he's not folding ANYTHING than shoving would be GOOD, not bad, lol. You are ahead of his betting range for sure.

terp · #24 08-02-2007, 05:29 PM

shove isn't terrible but would be much hotter if we happened to have aces (which i wouldn't mind playing like this occasionally)

bilbo-san · #25 08-02-2007, 05:31 PM

CMON GUYS.

EL OH [censored] EL @ folding here. Are you serious?

He just calls preflop, He checks flop, c/cs turn, and he bets the river, and you want to put him on KK+?

WHAT THE [censored].

Easiest call ever. You have TPTK FFS. Sometimes he has a set. Yay. You only need to be good about 40% of the time here.

My goodness, with the nittiness. 3-betting preflop is very bad if you ever fold here.

AE6 · #26 08-02-2007, 05:33 PM

shoving is way better if your name is colombo. with a standard image though, i think it's too thin.

Syntec87 · #27 08-02-2007, 05:43 PM

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shoving is terrible.

Your hand has showdown value, is upderrepped, and villain isn't folding anything nearly enough to make it profitable.

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obviously its not a bluff shove, the suggestion was a value shove.

Still bad though.

Mike MacIntosh · #28 08-02-2007, 05:52 PM

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CMON GUYS.

EL OH [censored] EL @ folding here. Are you serious?

He just calls preflop, He checks flop, c/cs turn, and he bets the river, and you want to put him on KK+?

WHAT THE [censored].

Easiest call ever. You have TPTK FFS. Sometimes he has a set. Yay. You only need to be good about 40% of the time here.

My goodness, with the nittiness. 3-betting preflop is very bad if you ever fold here.

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Bilbo,

What do you think of the flop action?

In general, what range do you assign to unknowns (that you suspect have a clue, and are positionally aware) when they call 3bets? One of my leaks is 3bet pots, and it seems to start with assigning ranges to villains. I usualy assign a ridiculously tight range to a player and get tottaly leveled/pwned postflop.