Baseball: rest of the season analysis post-trades

[jtg51]

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Nelson had an ERA over 4 that year, come on, that was really just Rivera having an absolutely sick 107 IP/130K year.

Other notable bullpens were the 2001 Mariners of Rhodes/Nelson/Sasaki and the 1995 Indians with Plunk/Taveraz/Mesa.

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Was Nelson really that much better in '01 than '96?

'96: 11.02 K/9, 4.36 BB/9
'01: 12.12 K/9, 6.06 BB/9!!!

[Azizal]

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well MN didn't get anyone to replace Punto, play LF or DH [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

but a 4game winstreak has them within 5games of the WildCard which is catchable, though seems very very unlikely to leapfrog Clev/NYY/Seattle

I kind of hoped they would have traded Hunter and set up for a big run next year, hopefully with Liriano back

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I didn't include the Twins cause yeah, leapfrogging both Cleveland and the Tigers is pretty much the only way they make it, and that seems virtually impossible.

Yeah Santana/Liriano when healthy is the best 1/2 by far in baseball.. since Johnson/Schilling I think.

[Vyse]

Too bad they likely won't ever have it again. Liriano won't be dominating his first year back -- even if he was healthy forever he may not have repeated that season -- and Johan's gone the year after.

[Azizal]

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How about Charlton, Dibble, and Myers?? The Nasty Boys!

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Here they are. Their best year as a trio was 1990, and it's a little funky because Charlton started 16 games (he was awesome, 2.03 ERA in 104 IP). So here they are, with Charlton's numbers as a reliever:

Norm Charlton (LH): 51 IP, 48 H, 22 BB, 57 K, 3.02 ERA
Rob Dibble: 98 IP, 62 H, 34 BB, 136 K, 1.74 ERA
Randy Myers (LH): 87 IP, 59 H, 38 BB, 98 K, 2.08 ERA

Good god Dibble's year was unbelievable.

[Vyse]

Adjust it for era. Not THAT unbelievable. Not even his best season according to BP's translated numbers.

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NL -- Braves (E), Cubs (C), Padres (W), Mets (WC)
AL -- Red Sox (E), Cleveland (C), Angels (W), Yankees (WC)

Isn't that obvious?

[kidcolin]

Not sure how the Yankees are so obvious. The AL wildcard should be a pretty tight race.

[Bremen]

Braves aren't exactly obvious either. They upgraded 1B sure, but they don't have a rotation that inspires confidence. Lucky for them NY can't score runs and Philly can't hold leads.

[TMTTR]

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Not sure how the Yankees are so obvious. The AL wildcard should be a pretty tight race.

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The nonobvious part is actually which one of Cleveland/Detroit doesn't make it (given the way they are both playing recently).... of course the Yankees play each of these teams several times in August, so we will see how it goes.

[SL__72]

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For fun:

2004 Billy Wagner: 86 IP, 52 H, 23 BB, 105 K, 1.78 ERA
2004 Octavio Dotel: 87 IP, 53 H, 31 BB, 97 K, 2.48 ERA
2004 Brad Lidge: 85 IP, 60 H, 42 BB, 97 K, 3.60 ERA

2007 Jon Papelbon: 38 IP, 23 H, 11 BB, 45 K, 2.15 ERA
2007 Hideki Okajima: 52 IP, 30 H, 12 BB, 44 K, 0.87 ERA
2007 Eric Gagne: 33 IP, 23 H, 12 BB, 29 K, 2.16 ERA


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2007 Joe Nathan: 49 IP, 43 H, 10 BB, 51 K, 2.02 ERA
2007 Pat Neshek: 51 IP, 25 H, 18 BB, 60 K, 1.95 ERA
2007 Matt Gurrier: 60 IP, 50 H, 15 BB, 43 K, 1.79 ERA