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Old 07-27-2007, 09:51 PM
Poker monkey Poker monkey is offline
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Default Re: KK: Wait how\'d I get here? 349BB pot 200nl

There's nothing that you beat on the river so easy fold. Check-folding the flop isn't as bad as you seem to think - you're a dog to his range.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: KK: Wait how\'d I get here? 349BB pot 200nl

I don't really like your preflop 4bet given stacks.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: KK: Wait how\'d I get here? 349BB pot 200nl

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I check-fold flop. I honestly don't think AK or JJ are betting here.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: KK: Wait how\'d I get here? 349BB pot 200nl

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There's nothing that you beat on the river so easy fold. Check-folding the flop isn't as bad as you seem to think - you're a dog to his range.

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There's 3/4 of a buyin already in the pot preflop.

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

26,730 games 0.005 secs 5,346,000 games/sec

Board: 2d Ts Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.774% 45.74% 02.03% 12227 543.00 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 52.226% 50.19% 02.03% 13417 543.00 { TT+, AKs, AKo }

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CRAI on the flop.

P.S. Conflict of interest, I'm propmike posting from another computer.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: KK: Wait how\'d I get here? 349BB pot 200nl

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GRUNCH:
I check-fold flop. I honestly don't think AK or JJ are betting here.

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If hero's been super active he might.
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: KK: Wait how\'d I get here? 349BB pot 200nl

4bet size no good imo. As played, fold river. I think you can b/f the flop.
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: KK: Wait how\'d I get here? 349BB pot 200nl

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GRUNCH:
I check-fold flop. I honestly don't think AK or JJ are betting here.

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Agreed. What does Pokerstove give us when you take out AK and JJ from his range?
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:04 PM
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4bet size no good imo. As played, fold river. I think you can b/f the flop.

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Actually, yes, it really is this simple.
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: KK: Wait how\'d I get here? 349BB pot 200nl

rr more pre... shove flop as played
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: KK: Wait how\'d I get here? 349BB pot 200nl

4town pf is ok/flat calling 3bet is a decent option too.

Bet flop.

AS played fold river.
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