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Old 07-25-2007, 09:09 AM
Colombo Colombo is offline
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Default Re: Feeling frozen /w QQ

tufat,

why do you shove the flop?

Do you think it gets more value from hands like 77(even though I don't think hes capable of squeezing /w it) or JJ, because he'll put us a on a flush draw? And even if he does fold bluffs, he probably wasn't double barreling anyway? That's all I can think of really, but I may be wrong.


Noah,

Why do you fold "especially being Colombo?" You probably say this because I have a maniacal/LAG image, why would this warrant a fold and not a call?
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:40 AM
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Preflop: Sometimes I 4-bet/shove, sometimes I call. I'm willing to bet even a nitty TAG is capable of 3-betting light on the button sometimes.

Flop: C/c is fine, c/r is fine sometimes also. Depends on table image and history with villain. Although I don't like a c/r as much, because he's only calling you with JJ+ or a set.

Turn: As played, insta-call. If you are going to fold this hand on the turn, just fold preflop. Ie, if you think he has AA/KK, just dump it before the flop.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:15 AM
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columbo i think you may have gotten too used to the nitty 200nl games.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:16 PM
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Nice hand if you folded turn.
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:00 PM
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columbo i think you may have gotten too used to the nitty 200nl games.

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Well, this guy was a huge nit (ActionDJ). I did call on the turn though, but it didn't seem right.
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: Feeling frozen /w QQ

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columbo i think you may have gotten too used to the nitty 200nl games.

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Well, this guy was a huge nit (ActionDJ). I did call on the turn though, but it didn't seem right.

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OMFG ActionDJ. Fold preflop.
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: Feeling frozen /w QQ

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($489.90)
SB ($815.10)
BB ($362)
Hero ($406)
MP ($187.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, MP calls $14, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $60</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $46, MP folds.

Flop: ($140) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $96</font>, Hero calls $96.

Turn: ($332) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $333.9 (All-In)</font>, Hero ...

so fold here, no?

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i think it is safe to assume he will shove JJ and AXspades
here as momentum may be high for him so i call. Maybe even some suited connector which picks up the low end straight draw a small percentage as well as a tiny bit of total air.

At 2/1 you cant fold figuring his total range here.

Even giving villain a tight range here results below...
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

924 games 0.005 secs 184,800 games/sec

Board: 3s Ts 8d 9d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.234% 38.85% 02.38% 359 22.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 58.766% 56.39% 02.38% 521 22.00 { JJ+, AdKd, AsKs }

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Ok so villian never repops with TT or 99?

He also doesn't squeeze with 78 or a complete bluff?
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Feeling frozen /w QQ

i would crai on this flop, partly b/c that's what i'd do with a draw. but tbh, there aren't many worse hands that call, so i don't hate c/c flop and long as you c/c any non-A turn.

also, wtf actiondj is a nit? not in my experience.
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:45 PM
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WTF why didn't you say actionDJ sooner!!!

lol i may just fold flop.
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Old 07-25-2007, 04:09 PM
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results aa kk?
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