100nl folding a boat?

[loosbastard]

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This is very wrong.

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Ummm...why? Calling is obviously marginal, but how is it "very wrong" against what looks like a total donk.

[mertzo]

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This is very wrong.

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Ummm...why? Calling is obviously marginal, but how is it "very wrong" against what looks like a total donk.

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Im with you, calling is hot unless the blinds are observant squeesers

[Hattifnatt]

Preflop is bad.

[Nick Royale]

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This is very wrong.

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Ummm...why? Calling is obviously marginal, but how is it "very wrong" against what looks like a total donk.

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The reasoning is bad because QJo isn't really a hand with great implied odds. The preflop call is bad because vs what a 11% pfr is raising from UTG our equity sucks. A 40/11 isn't usually a stack-off-machine either.

[startrak]

To all the callers pre flop: Try to figure out the range a player who raises 11% of his hands is UTG and see how QJ off suit plays vs that.

[startrak]

High five nick! was gonna say that he doesnt seem aggro enough to stack off easy too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[loosbastard]

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A 40/11 isn't usually a stack-off-machine either.

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What what what??? That's exactly what a 40/11 is.

[Imrahil]

I'd call with QJs but fold QJo and focus my attn on another hand somewhere else.

[Nick Royale]

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A 40/11 isn't usually a stack-off-machine either.

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What what what??? That's exactly what a 40/11 is.

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Sure, he'll probably stack off with AA/KK on a QJx-board, but that's not quite what I ment with a stack-off-machine. Assuming that a 40/11 is a spewbot is just silly and you won't hit a great flop with QJo even close to often enough to call here. Our preflop equity is probably somewhere around 32%, calling preflop is not close.

[loosbastard]

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Sure, he'll probably stack off with AA/KK on a QJx-board, but that's not quite what I ment with a stack-off-machine. Assuming that a 40/11 is a spewbot is just silly and you won't hit a great flop with QJo even close to often enough to call here. Our preflop equity is probably somewhere around 32%, calling preflop is not close.

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my note on him is he overplays top pair no kicker too much.

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Playing 150 deep in position against a 40/11 donk that over-values one pair hands is a dream come true. Just because our equity is behind his UTG opening range doesn't mean we can't profitably play this hand post-flop.

Folding here is perfectly acceptable, and the decision to call is more of a style thing for me. I probably cold-call from the button a lot more than most, and it fits into my game just fine.