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Old 07-21-2007, 09:52 PM
zasterguava zasterguava is offline
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The reaons I dislike him are because he's anti-abortionaist, pro death penalty, hes not anti-war (didnt he support Afghanistan war?), he's anti-gay rights (this means anti-civil rights)... I don't think much of his economic plans either. Since when has being "eloquent, clear, convincing, enthusiastic, and skillful" been reason not to dislike a poltician presuming you are rightfully only concerned with proposed policy.
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:04 PM
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You heard it here first, Ron Paul is not anti-war. yep, that's right. Also I just googled the death penalty and all the sources said he was anti it. I don't think you know what you are talking about.
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:37 PM
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The reaons I dislike him are because he's anti-abortionaist, pro death penalty, hes not anti-war (didnt he support Afghanistan war?), he's anti-gay rights (this means anti-civil rights)... I don't think much of his economic plans either. Since when has being "eloquent, clear, convincing, enthusiastic, and skillful" been reason not to dislike a poltician presuming you are rightfully only concerned with proposed policy.

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Ron Paul is pro life, against the death penalty, voted for the war in Afghanistan because he wanted the President to use the power to capture Osama bin Laden and those responsible for 9/11. He is for war in self defense.

http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2001/pr101101.htm

Ron Paul said in the recent google interview that gay marriage should be left up to the states, not the federal government to decide. He also said he would change "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" because he doesn't think gays should be thrown out of the military just for being gay. So basically you were wrong on 3 of the reasons you dislike him. Do a little bit of research.
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:41 PM
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The reaons I dislike him are because he's anti-abortionaist, pro death penalty, hes not anti-war (didnt he support Afghanistan war?), he's anti-gay rights (this means anti-civil rights)... I don't think much of his economic plans either. Since when has being "eloquent, clear, convincing, enthusiastic, and skillful" been reason not to dislike a poltician presuming you are rightfully only concerned with proposed policy.

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Ron Paul is pro life, against the death penalty, voted for the war in Afghanistan because he wanted the President to use the power to capture Osama bin Laden and those responsible for 9/11. He is for war in self defense.

http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2001/pr101101.htm

Ron Paul said in the recent google interview that gay marriage should be left up to the states, not the federal government to decide. He also said he would change "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" because he doesn't think gays should be thrown out of the military just for being gay. So basically you were wrong on 3 out of 4 of the reasons you dislike him. Do a little bit of research.

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Also, and this is a big one, keep in mind that when Ron Paul votes "no" for federal funding of stem cell research, that doesn't mean he's anti-stem cell research, but rather that he doesn't think it's the Federal Governments place to fund that research. If it's not expressly in the constitution, he can be counted on to vote "No".

Simply voting for or against something isn't always a sign of or lack of support. Do you think every congressman who voted to pass the Port Security Bill wanted to outlaw gambling too? No, almost assuredly they realized that people are wired to hear 5 second soundbites and not do their own research, so when their voters heard "Voted 'No' on port security" the wouldn't listen to "...because he didn't believe in the riders that were attached".

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Old 07-21-2007, 10:46 PM
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Ya, Ron Paul is a war monger folks.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:38 PM
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Odds that Paul can take this? ... and what can people do in addition to contributing $ ... talk to friends/relatives, become informed yourself about specifically why RP offers a better way than competitors ... how are the ideas that RP talks about going to affect government and why is that a good thing???
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:04 AM
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He's anti abortion, true. On a political level he would leave it up to the states. On a moral level he has stated repeatedly that he believes the fetus is alive, and as such killing it is an act of murder. Even you most ardent libertarian is anti-murder, since it is physical force.

Yes, he supported going into Afghantistan to capture OBL and the Al-Queda leadership. They did attack us after all. He has said that he would have liked to do just that and then leave. Not even attempting to go after the people who attacked us would be like pearl harbor happening and you just decide to do nothing.

He isn't anti-gay marraige. He is anti government involvement in marraige. He doesn't believe the government should encourage or discourage anyone from getting married.

So, yeah, I'm not even sure you know what his posistions are.
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:13 AM
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hes not anti-war (didnt he support Afghanistan war?),

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Not really. He supported seeking out Al-Qaeda. He did not support regime change in Afghanistan. It was certainly fuzzy though.

But regardless, yes, he's not anti-war. He does believe in actual defense. You know, like repelling people who invade us.
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:41 AM
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he's anti-abortionaist,

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personally yes he is. governmentaly not at all.

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pro death penalty,

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so what?

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hes not anti-war (didnt he support Afghanistan war?),

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he supported tracking down OBL so did 90% of the planet.

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he's anti-gay rights (this means anti-civil rights)

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errrrrrr ... no state involvement in marriage and no reason for don't ask don't tell. How again is this anti gay rights?

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I don't think much of his economic plans either.

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yeah nevermind about the market lets just socialize it all. lmao ..

btw hows that new guy workin out in the UK?
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:23 PM
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pro death penalty,

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so what?


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errr. some people disagree with the death penalty!
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