Steve Forte, author of Poker Protection - arrested in NJ

[Professionalpoker]

I did sell out but was able to re-stock. The story makes it sound like this was going on for a while.

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I did sell out but was able to re-stock. The story makes it sound like this was going on for a while.

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NY Times.

[cardshark]

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http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6804075... The scheme did not target the casino games, they targeted poker tournament players "off the floor" - I am still trying to guess what that may mean but I don't have any ideas yet.

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The problem with that initial article is that it was badly written and impossible to figure out what the writer was trying to say.

From the follow-up articles it is easier to conclude that the 4 people are accused of setting up a private game in a hotel room and that they were allegedly trying to lure high-stakes players to play in that game. We have to take into consideration that sometimes news articles do not have all the facts and/or that sometimes the facts are distorted because of lack of information.

Steve Forte is an internationally acclaimed researcher in the field of crooked gambling. He is an author, consultant and lecturer. Throughout his professional career he has been conducting research on crooked gambling. Now the logical question is: how would he learn all that stuff? The logical answer is that he has to hang around people who use these techniques and/or equipment. So, if he made a statement that he was observing, we have to take his word for it and wait to see what happens. Some people were posting mean posts in another thread on this board, and I thought that was unfair. It is perfectly fine to speculate, but it is not fine to post mean remarks based on very little information that is available at this time.

If Steve Forte says he was an observer we have to take that into consideration. Perhaps it was still a bad decision for him to infiltrate like this, on his own, but we also have to take into consideration that this was not some kind of violent crime or anything of that nature. He says he wanted to watch. If you read his latest book he also says, in his book, that watching this kind of action is what he does and what he's always done. If he weren't watching he'd have nothing to write about, except recycling the information that has already been published in the old books.

I say that he's got already enough to worry about, right now, as is. And at least we don't have to jump on his neck on this board, as we really don't have the facts.

Finally, some may be under the impression that I am some kind of friend of his. This is not at all the case. Yes, I have exchanged about 3 emails with him in my entire life, in the stretch of about 3 years. I never met him, I never talked to him on the phone, but I am very much familiar with his work.

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If Steve Forte says he was an observer we have to take that into consideration. Perhaps it was still a bad decision for him to infiltrate like this, on his own, but we also have to take into consideration that this was not some kind of violent crime or anything of that nature. He says he wanted to watch. If you read his latest book he also says, in his book, that watching this kind of action is what he does and what he's always done. If he weren't watching he'd have nothing to write about, except recycling the information that has already been published in the old books.

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Steve's problem is that even if he was only observing then he is an accessory. If the prosecutors/investigators uncover similar activity that he never reported then he is seriously screwed. Its the risk he took when choosing his career path, the industry wants data from Steve yet they don't want to know how Steve gets his information.

[soko]

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http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6804075... The scheme did not target the casino games, they targeted poker tournament players "off the floor" - I am still trying to guess what that may mean but I don't have any ideas yet.

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The problem with that initial article is that it was badly written and impossible to figure out what the writer was trying to say.

From the follow-up articles it is easier to conclude that the 4 people are accused of setting up a private game in a hotel room and that they were allegedly trying to lure high-stakes players to play in that game. We have to take into consideration that sometimes news articles do not have all the facts and/or that sometimes the facts are distorted because of lack of information.

Steve Forte is an internationally acclaimed researcher in the field of crooked gambling. He is an author, consultant and lecturer. Throughout his professional career he has been conducting research on crooked gambling. Now the logical question is: how would he learn all that stuff? The logical answer is that he has to hang around people who use these techniques and/or equipment. So, if he made a statement that he was observing, we have to take his word for it and wait to see what happens. Some people were posting mean posts in another thread on this board, and I thought that was unfair. It is perfectly fine to speculate, but it is not fine to post mean remarks based on very little information that is available at this time.

If Steve Forte says he was an observer we have to take that into consideration. Perhaps it was still a bad decision for him to infiltrate like this, on his own, but we also have to take into consideration that this was not some kind of violent crime or anything of that nature. He says he wanted to watch. If you read his latest book he also says, in his book, that watching this kind of action is what he does and what he's always done. If he weren't watching he'd have nothing to write about, except recycling the information that has already been published in the old books.

I say that he's got already enough to worry about, right now, as is. And at least we don't have to jump on his neck on this board, as we really don't have the facts.

Finally, some may be under the impression that I am some kind of friend of his. This is not at all the case. Yes, I have exchanged about 3 emails with him in my entire life, in the stretch of about 3 years. I never met him, I never talked to him on the phone, but I am very much familiar with his work.

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Thank you for this well written reply. I gleaned more information here than in all the news articles combined.

[MoistToes]

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http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6804075. Video is also available at that link.


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Link is unavailable - has it been changed?

[Professionalpoker]

They moved it to their archives. New location:
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story....=menu102_2_1_1

[bec1972]

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Steve's problem is that even if he was only observing then he is an accessory. If the prosecutors/investigators uncover similar activity that he never reported then he is seriously screwed.

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Yeah just ask the Falcons quarterback . . . . (I think Vick is guilty as charged)

But hope that they are treated innocent until proven otherwise.

[AngusThermopyle]

Unless he has some proof that he was going to blow the whistle on the scam, he is as guilty as the rest.

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Unless he has some proof that he was going to blow the whistle on the scam, he is as guilty as the rest.

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lets not rush to judge unintentionally due to wording, remember Steve oddly is one of us; his research has helped expose the scams which are much rarer today. I think what you really intended to say is "Unless he has some proof that he was going to blow the whistle on the scam, he is likely to be found as guilty as the rest.