Stars $4/180 - 3rd hand AA

[Kyle Flynn]

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wow i see why i never post in this forum, you don't even know if you are getting good advice or not, or whoever giving you advice has any good results at all. raising 200 pre is so so so bad and there's like 4 people agreeing with it. sigh.

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[etown]

once you get more than one caller on the flop its a fold

[deepextragully]

obv preflop is fine, I would raise t400-500 and go broke vs the guy who leads out, if anyone reraises behind let it go. oh yeah I dont think folding is too bad either but I wouldnt do it in a 4/180 because everyone is so bad.

[Uppercut]

Preflop raise is fine. I hate this flop as did you. Against this many opponents OOP, I also fold and wait for a better spot.

[ChipSpeak]

PF is fine, stop the discussion on this please.
It's always tricky employing large buyin thinking type strategy in small buyins, the fact you're in a $4 must be recognized as a variable. I had a similar thread last week.
I like the flop raise to 400... calling a shove behind you, meh ..
Not an easy spot, bigger buyins it's an easier read.. here.. ugg.. This flop has you against a wide variety of hands that are both ahead and behind you, (most of which, poor players will pay you off). Maybe database the villian, call any poor rating, fold to anyone decent.

[TheAcesRToxic]

An opening raise pf of 10x/BB is indeed absurd and -EV. Re-raising a raiser to 10x/BB is, however, not absurd. The only reason I raise small (2-4x/BB) UTG with big hands (QQ-AA) is to induce a re-raise and try to push over the top of someone that has gotten attached to their less than premium hand. Typically I only like to do this with KK/AA though.

As for the fold on the flop, I agree you might need to try a re-raise here. If he comes over the top again you know he has something like J10s or a straight. Well, most of the time. But then again, play is horrid in these low buy-in SnGs.

[TheAcesRToxic]

Wait...its not -EV but less +EV than you would get from a smaller pf raise.

[All_In_Olly]

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I don't like folding the flop. I'd raise there to 600 .

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Pre flop is fine.

[Spanga7]

Why is it absurd? Because it is 10x the big blind! You could argue that raising to five blinds (100) is reasonable (I disagree, I like to make the pot sized bet of 70 here UTG), but a 10x opening raise under the gun is ridiculous. You can't anticipate so many callers. It's unfortunate that it happened, but that doesn't mean that you should make a ridiculous raise UTG with aces everytime. Let's be real! UTG shows strength even with a 4x raise.
And BLUEECHO...I'm sure hero would "lead" this flop if it were possible, but the big blind has already lead out, so "leading" is not an option. I think the fold is very reasonable here...so many terrible players in this tourny, find a better spot.

[Bantam222]

guys raising to 10BB is to easy to read, thats why we go for the limp re-raise! they never see it comin