One player threatens another with violence

[SretiCentV]

Well even if he meant "guys like you" as in any young black man, I don't think thats racist. Pointing out a statistic that a disproportionate amount of young black men are incarcerated compared to other demographics is not racist. Its true, isn't it?

[soulvamp]

Can't say I sympathize with the trash-talking punk. I certainly don't advocate violence, but if you keep pushing the line like he apparently does, he doesn't get a pass from me. He deserves a KITN.

And I don't think you can automatically assume that there was anything racial behind it. From the story posted, I can imagine that Da Judge could just as easily have lost it with a white-dude punk. I have to assume the operative quality here is punk, not black.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

How is the guy a racist?

He said something like "I put people LIKE YOU in jail all the time."

What do you think that meant? He puts mouthy poker players in jail all the time?

[Brad1970]

Was he nappy headed?

[StevieG]

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He claims to be a employed as a judge, but I find that hard to believe based on his actions tonight.

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What's hard to believe?

Americans universally despise lawyers and politicians. What do you get when you cross a lawyer with a politician? A judge!


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True. The Economist just had an article cataloging judicial misbehavior in the U.S. ("Judges Behaving Badly", June 28, 2007, subscription may be required).

Here are some highlighted judges:

Grafton Minot Biddle, county judge in Colorado, who conducted an affair with a female prosecuter including sex in his chambers.

Albany City Court judge William A. Carter censured for actions on the bench including asking a defendant if he wanted a piece of him, and separately suggesting the police "thump the [censored]" out of a defendant.

Brooklyn judge Gerald Garson took bribes to rig divorce cases.

Donald D. Thompson of Oklahoma, who used a penis pump while holding court

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Maybe he was a ho, too.

[Budget Boy]

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"GUYS LIKE YOU" == "Young know-it-all punks who think they can do anything they want when they haven't done squat for their country"

I love how everybody assumes that if Mr X is in an altercation with a black person, he is automatically a racist.


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That's a valid point, I guess nobody knows what was meant except the man who said it. I gave an opinion as to how the statement came across to me. I certainly don't assume a white dude is a racist because he is arguing with a black dude, if he wouldn't have made that comment I wouldn't even have thought race was an issue.
That's not really what I wanted to discuss here, so I probably shouldn't have even made that comment. I wanted to talk about what should and shouldn't be tolerated in a cardroom. What is considered over the line and grounds for getting booted? Some people have made the point that constant needling could be considered verbal abuse and grounds for removal and I could see that. If a player is just a constant problem day in and day out, giving others a hard time then management wouldn't want that player around. I think when you actually threaten someone that takes it to another level and definitely crosses a line.

[soulvamp]

I wouldn't ban either one of these guys if it was a first offense. I'd give them both a warning here and tell them that if they are involved in another incident, they will be banned.

The judge would get a pass from me since he was provoked, though I wouldn't allow it again no matter the circumstances.

And the punk would be told that if he causes another incident or even draws a complaint from another player, that would be it for him.

[soulvamp]

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He claims to be a employed as a judge, but I find that hard to believe based on his actions tonight.

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What's hard to believe?

Americans universally despise lawyers and politicians. What do you get when you cross a lawyer with a politician? A judge!


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True. The Economist just had an article cataloging judicial misbehavior in the U.S. ("Judges Behaving Badly", June 28, 2007, subscription may be required).

Here are some highlighted judges:

Grafton Minot Biddle, county judge in Colorado, who conducted an affair with a female prosecuter including sex in his chambers.

Albany City Court judge William A. Carter censured for actions on the bench including asking a defendant if he wanted a piece of him, and separately suggesting the police "thump the [censored]" out of a defendant.

Brooklyn judge Gerald Garson took bribes to rig divorce cases.

Donald D. Thompson of Oklahoma, who used a penis pump while holding court

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The cheese sandwich analogy is brilliant.

Here in Broward County, Florida, both of the judges who heard the Anna Nicole stuff got themselves in trouble. The one guy got arrested a few weeks ago for smoking marijuana in a public park and agreed to retire, the other guy was caught accepting a couple of gifts and taking a loan from a lawyer in the public defender's office. And then there was the judge a week or so ago who had to recuse himself after he was overheard describing a case involving a minority defendant and victim as NHI (no humans involved).

We get the cream of the crop here in South Florida.

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Reggie, a young black male

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WTF does this have ANYTHING to do with your story!?!?!