queens on the bubble prove my roomate wrong

[DeuceSeven]

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what about the value of waiting for the money, and other people to bust out first, im pretty sure the BB woulda called all in if he didnt call QQ, i dont think SnGPT takes that into account

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That is in fact what sngpt figures out.

[Pudge714]

Either you are pushing too tight in this spot or calling too tight when spots are reversed.

[ParadiceCity]

so where do you enter the payouts into SngPT?

[AMT]

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SngPower Tools isnt always correct around the bubble from what I understand, is there more to this than that?

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not in this situation. *sometimes* there are situations where the value of owning the bubble and taking a slight -EV push is of value. see this thread by TFG

[kyro]

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so where do you enter the payouts into SngPT?

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You have to select what type of tourney you're playing, whether it be Stars Turbo/Regular, Party, whatever. The payouts are built right in.

[Dayvet]

Another bit of useful information:

I am the roomate whom ParadiceCity will have to pay $100 for our bet regarding this hand. Because I think I am right, and that QQ is a correct call, I would like to add another piece of information to this puzzle...because I like $100.

I asked the OP if he was pushing frequently when he was 4 handed (I know he was bc i was watching).

He replied to me: "ya i was but not every hand"
to which I respond: "i didnt say every hand. i said frequently"
His final response: "ya, thats how u play as a big stack"

By admitting he was pushing frequently, doesnt that put him on a wide range of hands, thus making a call with QQ a justifiably good call?

All responses are appreciated. Thanks.

[ParadiceCity]

so how low would the shortstack have to be (BB) before this call from the SB is wrong?

[PokahPokah]

well given that infortmation villain must have put us on a wide range, makin qq a good call

[Kevin8423]

Folding QQ there is terrible. The "short" stack is barely smaller than the one that called.

[DeuceSeven]

OP, do you play $60s regularly? If so I think some ICM software would be a great investment.