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Old 06-29-2007, 05:03 PM
Al4as Al4as is offline
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Default Re: big bluff nearly 500bb deep

Well I dont know if FT 600NL is full of no fear at all crazy ass players willing to play 500-1000BB pot with a pair, but where I play, this line looks like KT-66 to me 99% of time. I insta fold AK-KQ-AA on the river.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: big bluff nearly 500bb deep

i like the bluff, but this really depends on your history and the flow of the session
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: big bluff nearly 500bb deep

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i like the bluff, but this really depends on your history and the flow of the session

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comon this is like obvious in any post. flow, what he thinks of u, blah blah blah. everyone needs to think deeper about hands and give ranges, actions, etc. not just directed at you tho dude.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: big bluff nearly 500bb deep

i dont think zero2lose will fold AK or AA or [censored] like that here so i dont like it.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: big bluff nearly 500bb deep

I get the feeling the villain has KQ or AKs. The first one MIGHT fold (I would but I'm a nit); the second one will not (no way he folds A high flush, despite board pairing, after he paid so much to chase it). I don't think a naked AK or AA are all too likely here b/c they probably couldn't stand the heat on the turn. I probably throw in the towel on this river, though it can be awfully difficuly once you've put so many chips out there. I really just don't think he's folding most of his range. Results?

And pretty bad call pre. You're OOP w/ a trash hand that can almost never flop the nuts or anything too special (unless you catch the 2-2-x miracle, etc). Calling pre I think is a big spew.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:50 PM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default Re: big bluff nearly 500bb deep

preflop is not only fine, it is fantastic- squeezing here would be fine too, but in general i prefer flatting

i dont' think i would be able to get away witht this postflop, and like people said, you're really only repping KT or 666, i mean, other things you could have, but if he looks at the board and goes "damn, wtf, no way he's got KKK or quadz, so much of his made hand range he's repping is gone, he probably missed clubs, i'll look him up with AA one time"

what i'm trying to say is that i can't get away with this bluff, ever, basically, becuase i try it all tht eimtime so i know, but you might be able to
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: big bluff nearly 500bb deep

i get the feeling this post is more for image reasons than advice
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: big bluff nearly 500bb deep

hate a shove here - although i guess you are only looking to have FE against AA/AK. What a garbage river card though - that is not a good bluff card IMO. I think he can call here w/ AA.
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:36 PM
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hate a shove here - although i guess you are only looking to have FE against AA/AK. What a garbage river card though - that is not a good bluff card IMO. I think he can call here w/ AA.

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i think it's a better river card than a non-pairing spade
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Old 06-29-2007, 08:08 PM
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I don't really like since you're repping exactly 66, maaaybe KT with this.

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A range this tight is pretty believable considering he's betting 8 million dollars.
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