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Old 06-27-2007, 07:52 PM
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Cops, as a group, are douches. What do you expect?
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:03 PM
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Cliff Notes

-Punk skateboarding teens think they can do whatever they want with impunity.

-Cops also think they can do whatever they want with impunity

-Two styles of douche, one 17 years old and one a former bouncer, collide in a giant doucheball that spirals out of control.

-Anti-cop people, susceptible only to their preconceptions, jump on the easy opportunity and throw around their really loose understandings of the law.

-Pro-cop people, susceptible only to their preconceptions, jump on the easy opportunity and throw around their really loose understandings of the law.



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Very nicely done.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:05 PM
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local news story

I love on the website poll, of 50,000 voters, 36% said the cop did the right thing
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:07 PM
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imo the main thing on show is not 'police brutality', it's a display of how badly things can go if a police officer has no grasp on how to handle a situation properly.

The police officer was not necessarily overly rough or brutal, but just showing really really bad policing skills.

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This is quite true too. A cop reacting to the situation by trying to arrest multiple kids is being stupid and looking stupid. Zero idea of working with the community. These are just kids, not hardened criminals or deviants. And their "crime" was minor, to say the least. Then he makes it worse by saying he's going to lay all these multiple charges on them. Come on already, Officer Vagina Sand.

Arresting one of them would have been enough to make the point. Telling them to get the hell out of here or they'd be arrested would probably have made the point with at least some of them. Basically, the cop made a mountain out of a molehill. Given the the opportunity to make the best or the worst out of the situation, he made the worse choice.

This has nothing to do with whether it was the law or not. Officers are still allowed to use discretion. So the law neither prompts nor excuses not being able to handle himself well. If this guy can't handle kids, I'd hate to see how he handles adults.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:09 PM
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Hey man, whatever it takes to get these dangerous criminals off the street, I'm all for it.

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I agree. They were probably just scoping out the neighborhood so they could see if anyone's Aunt had put an apple pie out to cool on a windowsill.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:11 PM
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Hey man, whatever it takes to get these dangerous criminals off the street, I'm all for it.

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I agree. They were probably just scoping out the neighborhood so they could see if anyone's Aunt had put an apple pie out to cool on a windowsill.

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in these all white communities, kids are the dangerous minorities.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:28 PM
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I think the video didn't show everything that happened. I'd give the cop a little more benefit of doubt than one what showed.
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:06 PM
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Yay for youtube.

http://news.google.com/news?tab=wn&h...ncl=1117602421

It's global. Some interesting quotes:

"Two of the skaters have been placed on house arrest because it is their second infraction. However, public outcry over the YouTube video has placed the officer on administrative leave. "

I like that video cameras are around. It takes public outcry to get an investigation. Without the video, the kids have no chance.

"Hot Springs Mayor Mike Bush said Tuesday that investigators have talked with witnesses who saw the officer, Joey Williams, stop the skateboarders on a downtown city sidewalk last Thursday. Skateboarding is banned in the area.

The video shows Williams apparently choking one of the skateboarders after forcing him to the ground, then later chasing and wrestling two others while holding them in a headlock.

"Unfortunately, the video shows it pretty good," Bush said."

Anyone else read this statement from the mayor as "Unfortunately, the guy is on video and we can't claim that the kids are lying and railroad them."?
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:15 PM
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did the police officer acted appropriately?

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I'm not a huge grammar nit, but Jesus Christ.
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:19 PM
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being the expert that I am after 2 semesters of Crim J, I do not think the officer handled this situation close to optimal
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