NL 100 | Echelon Theorem?

[Nielsio]

This is a supertough spot and I do feel utg has AJ.

On the other hand you are getting good odds and he played it so retardedly that utg could also have AK. I think you can justify a call.

[fees]

this is an insta fold, one of them has aces full or JJ, let it go and confirm success, you get a free peek remember=D

[Nielsio]

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Another thing to consider is the CO calling. I would be more tempted to call UTG's push without the CO calling because how many times does the CO call with less than AJ/A8/A7/JJ in that spot?

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CO is calling with any ace. Given his preflop play he can have AQ/AK. And the river completed a straight as well.

But you are right, all of this is very thin.

[johnnyrocket]

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I don't think I can fold this vs. 2 donkeys...

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i agree, UTG is passive but i think his stats show he isnt real good and will push here with trip aces, CO means nothing to me cuz he is a calling machine. i think i call this but it is very close, i think the stats pushed me to a call.

[4_2_it]

With a 63/1 player in the mix, I have a hard time folding. This could be AK and AQ. UTG has should uber strength, but does he really limp AJ with a 63/1 donkey at the table? A7 or A8 are the hands I am afraid of.

[redCashion]

I agree that it looks more like A8 or A7 given his open limp, but I have a hard time believing UTG checks on the flop AND THE TURN with Ax on this board. The only way that could happen is if he is slowplaying AJ and really hoping someone else will open up the action.

I think you are definitely beat by UTG here but honestly I can't fault a guy for just shipping it in, and reloading if beat.

Btw, I think your biggest mistake in the hand is not raising on the button vs a limper and a min-raiser.

[Logun]

Personally I have to make this call.

The action PF and Flop do not indicate JJ/AJ

therefore I am removing them from the villains' range.

with that in mind we are only beaten by A7 (A8 would be sick)

I honestly can only see them on 77/9T/A7

[Nielsio]

May as well give the results because there's not much more to analyze.

[Rainclouds]

Nah I'm not folding here.

Say you fold. UTG turned out to be bluffing with 2 clubs and CO called with A5o. You're gonna hate yourself forever.

[Phytopath]

The CO is an uber donkey, so his call doesn't change much IMO, so this is a call by me, I fold if the players are better/tighter maybe but not here. I think with something like A7, A8 the pot would've been raised more before the river