Would it ever be wise to lay down pocket aces (A,A) pre-flop ?!!?

[Dan87]

Pocket aces (A,A) is a good hand. Usually when I get pocket aces (A,A) i try to go allin

[React1oN]

From said post.

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But if you think about this your odds of winning are probably something like 40-43% maybe worse putting you as an underdog. . . and underdog with aces immpossible right. Nope.

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IT'S NOT IMMPOSSIBLE

here is the rest.

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Think of it this way with everyone all-in like this all 7 of will see it to the river, against any one player you have then destroyed but collectivly they are legion because in this secnario you will get knocked out by any one of them pitting six hands against one. Even if you have two dominated that means it pits a player who will only have a pair of aces against 4-players who are live against you and two who probably can out-draw you still. This leaves the only way you can win is with only a pair of aces or the very slim possibility for you to get four to the flush to win and even rarer is four to the straight because there may be less cards out for the high end of the straight. ! ! If this logic still confuses you play with an odds claculator pre-flop.

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[highhustla]

Hey guys,

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If this logic still confuses you play with an odds claculator pre-flop.

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ldo

[Stake Monster]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter, Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($93.90)
CO ($123.96)
Button ($54.45)
SB ($33.20)
Hero ($87.80)
UTG ($23.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ac, As.
UTG raises to $2.5, 3 folds, SB calls $2.25, Hero raises to $6, UTG calls $21.40 (All-In), SB folds, Hero calls $17.90.

Flop: ($50.30) Qh, 4h, 5h (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($50.30) Kc (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($50.30) 7h (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $50.30

Results below:
Hero has Ac As (one pair, aces).
UTG has 3h Ad (flush, queen high).
Outcome: UTG wins $50.30.

[FoldEqu1ty]

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I will give a situation. 200nl, SB and BB(you) have about 1 billion dollars in chips.
Entire table folds to SB who moves all in for 1 billion and shows his black aces face up. The dealer while folding accidentally fipped over his cards when he went to muck them showing 2h7d. You look down @ red aces, you do not have the odds to call the $1 billion.

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Easiest call ever for metagame jesus

[mugatu668]

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Pocket aces (A,A) is a good hand. Usually when I get pocket aces (A,A) i try to go allin

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rofl, how do you guys do such good parodies?

[vhawk01]

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I will give a situation. 200nl, SB and BB(you) have about 1 billion dollars in chips.
Entire table folds to SB who moves all in for 1 billion and shows his black aces face up. The dealer while folding accidentally fipped over his cards when he went to muck them showing 2h7d. You look down @ red aces, you do not have the odds to call the $1 billion.

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This is exactly why you rathole.

[mason55]

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ah 1383 0.69 195111 96.89 4882 2.42 0.018 &lt;----
Ac Ad 4262 2.12 192232 95.46 4882 2.42 0.032
Ks Kh 40701 20.21 160279 79.59 396 0.20 0.202
Qs Qh 33209 16.49 167771 83.31 396 0.20 0.165
Jc Jh 27110 13.46 173870 86.34 396 0.20 0.135
8d 7d 38620 19.18 162360 80.63 396 0.20 0.192
5s 5h 19137 9.50 181843 90.30 396 0.20 0.095
4c 4h 14290 7.10 186690 92.71 396 0.20 0.071
3c 3h 10232 5.08 190748 94.72 396 0.20 0.051
2s 2c 7550 3.75 193430 96.05 396 0.20 0.038</pre><hr />

[Sphere99991]

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I will give a situation. 200nl, SB and BB(you) have about 1 billion dollars in chips.
Entire table folds to SB who moves all in for 1 billion and shows his black aces face up. The dealer while folding accidentally fipped over his cards when he went to muck them showing 2h7d. You look down @ red aces, you do not have the odds to call the $1 billion.

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Good, though contrived example. Why would he show you the black aces??

[Warteen]

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Then I would say that it is smart to never make any type of preflop call when the odds are against you, even the dumbest player on the planet could agree too that. Such as if you are a 40/60 against. Obvious right.

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If you are getting 3:1 on your money and are 40% to win the hand, you should definitely make the 40/60 against call. Pot odds FTW.

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Now to set up the scenario say you are involved in a large tournament and you look down and see pocket aces (AA). Everyone at the full table (9-players) is about even stack. Most players are weak the overestimate too many hands ect. And you act last.

Player 1: raises about half of his stack.
Player 2: re-raises all-in
Player 3: FOLD
Player 4: goes all-in
Player 5: also goes all-in
Player 6: all-in (he is the chip leader but only slight)
Player 7: also goes all in.
Player 8: FOLD
You(A,A): [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]


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Just call, wuss.

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against any one player you have then destroyed but collectivly they are legion

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This is great stuff.

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If this logic still confuses you play with an odds claculator pre-flop.

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I tried this, but kept timing out.