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#21
06-06-2007, 02:11 PM
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Re: NL100 AA I check fold the flop
No, if he knows your stats, he should not be calling your reraise. I think online, a fold is fine. But I was just pointing out that live players with large stacks will play recklessly like this. You can't hurt them much and if they feel they can outplay you on the flop with pure aggression, they will do it. I think this is not so in online games.
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#23
06-06-2007, 04:15 PM
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Re: NL100 AA I check fold the flop
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I think it is very likely villain has KK/QQ based on the preflop action. However, once you get a 4-bet in preflop, I don't think you can fold this. You are putting in about 35% of the money on the flop and you are 10% to win if villain did have KK/QQ. [/ QUOTE ] So if it's likely that I'm behind and I have a 10% chance to win against KK QQ I should thrown in the rest of my stack here? Its actually a bit less then 30% that I put in preflop what possible hand can you put villain on besides JJ-AA and AK? He 3 bet a preflop raiser then I 4 bet him, this wasn't a raising war between the 2 of us there was a 3rd Party involved. Because i put $35 into the put I should risk 85 more? on the ugliest of flops? I am only ahead of 1 possible hand here and thats AK, JJ is not shoving this flop after I 4 bet him
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#24
06-06-2007, 04:25 PM
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Re: NL100 AA I check fold the flop
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11/6, what do you play, SC's and PP's and that's it? [/ QUOTE ] uh no, I play PP's SC' Axs, any 2 broadway 1 gasppers 2 gappers Ax, the thing is I play almost nothing in the SB early and MP and my range is larger in LP. I am constantly Isolating limpers and open raising a lot in LP. I think I think my stats are somehting like 2-4% in the 1st 4 positions and the about 15-27 in the last 3 positons I looked it up Im 12/7
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#27
06-06-2007, 05:13 PM
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Re: NL100 AA I check fold the flop
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Meh, I stack off here. [/ QUOTE ] Me too. Too much money in + chance he has AK + still can suck out = call.
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#28
06-06-2007, 06:37 PM
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Re: NL100 AA I check fold the flop
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[ QUOTE ] I think it is very likely villain has KK/QQ based on the preflop action. However, once you get a 4-bet in preflop, I don't think you can fold this. You are putting in about 35% of the money on the flop and you are 10% to win if villain did have KK/QQ. [/ QUOTE ] So if it's likely that I'm behind and I have a 10% chance to win against KK QQ I should thrown in the rest of my stack here? Its actually a bit less then 30% that I put in preflop what possible hand can you put villain on besides JJ-AA and AK? He 3 bet a preflop raiser then I 4 bet him, this wasn't a raising war between the 2 of us there was a 3rd Party involved. Because i put $35 into the put I should risk 85 more? on the ugliest of flops? I am only ahead of 1 possible hand here and thats AK, JJ is not shoving this flop after I 4 bet him [/ QUOTE ] Say villain always has AK or KK/QQ. You are about 90% against AK and 10% against KK/QQ. You need to put in about 35% of the total pot postflop. Then he would have to have KK/QQ over 2/3 of the time for the fold to be correct. I think you have odds to call.
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#29
06-06-2007, 07:28 PM
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Re: NL100 AA I check fold the flop
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You are about 90% against AK [/ QUOTE ] Slightly better than a coinflip against A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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#30
06-06-2007, 07:59 PM
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Re: NL100 AA I check fold the flop
I'd fold this.
How often would you guys push preflop? It may be results oriented, but if you can't fold an overpair in a situation as ugly as this what is the point of seeing a flop? Just take it down and hope he calls once in awhile. FWIW, I don't think the chance of sucking out should be thought of as much of a deciding factor since he has just as many outs the times he has AK, effectively canceling those outs out of the equation, unless of course its AKs and then hes got a [censored] more.
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