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#22
05-30-2007, 12:14 AM
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Re: Top set... butchered?
I would expect QJ/66/44 a lot more than 57.
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#23
05-30-2007, 12:14 AM
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Re: Top set... butchered?
[ QUOTE ]
... Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $24.90 <font color="black">Hero (BB): $108.05</font> UTG: $108.65 MP: $109.20 CO: $65.80 BTN: $337.90 <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players) 2 folds, CO calls $1.00, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, CO calls $2.50 <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($7.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $10.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00 <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($27.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $10.00</font>, Hero calls $10.00 <font color="black">River:</font> ($47.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $20.00</font>, Hero folds Uncalled bet of $20.00 returned to CO Pot Size: $47.50 ($2.35 Rake) [/ QUOTE ] good fold vs. 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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#24
05-30-2007, 12:15 AM
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Re: Top set... butchered?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] ... Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $24.90 <font color="black">Hero (BB): $108.05</font> UTG: $108.65 MP: $109.20 CO: $65.80 BTN: $337.90 <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players) 2 folds, CO calls $1.00, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, CO calls $2.50 <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($7.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $10.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00 <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($27.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $10.00</font>, Hero calls $10.00 <font color="black">River:</font> ($47.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $20.00</font>, Hero folds Uncalled bet of $20.00 returned to CO Pot Size: $47.50 ($2.35 Rake) [/ QUOTE ] good fold vs. 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] obv i'm a professional, you can all learn from me and my hero folds
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#25
05-30-2007, 12:24 AM
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Re: Top set... butchered?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] ... Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $24.90 <font color="black">Hero (BB): $108.05</font> UTG: $108.65 MP: $109.20 CO: $65.80 BTN: $337.90 <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players) 2 folds, CO calls $1.00, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, CO calls $2.50 <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($7.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $10.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00 <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($27.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $10.00</font>, Hero calls $10.00 <font color="black">River:</font> ($47.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $20.00</font>, Hero folds Uncalled bet of $20.00 returned to CO Pot Size: $47.50 ($2.35 Rake) [/ QUOTE ] good fold vs. 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] obv i'm a professional, you can all learn from me and my hero folds [/ QUOTE ] if you're folding the river, why are you calling on the turn? as for the original hand, i think OP played it decent considering he got villian to put all his money in. he just forgot to call on the river. since villian is extremely aggressive i think i might lead the turn smallish to try and get him to raise me again.
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#26
05-30-2007, 12:33 AM
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Re: Top set... butchered?
I think the fold is bad.
I usually lead the turn here for 1/2 to 2/3 because after you call the minraise, not many hands are betting the turn. This really sucks because then the river is very awkward because you have no idea what he has and the optimal river bet size is very tough to determine.
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#27
05-30-2007, 12:58 AM
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Re: Top set... butchered?
a) These are not folds you should EVER be making in NL50. Sure, 57 makes perfect sense. So does 66, 44, QJ, and, yes, 33. Putting villain on the ONE hand that you lose to is sickeningly bad here.
b) At this level, it's really silly to try and get tricky with top set. Just 3-bet flop. Take him to value town. If he's so aggressive he probably pushes 57 anyway, and of course he pushes 66 and 44.
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#29
05-30-2007, 01:41 AM
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Re: Top set... butchered?
min3bet, as played, fold is fine, but seriously, play this somewhat differently, minbet river or something
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