Is sbrugby good at PLO?

[greywolf]

I think a great play for Durr would be to make his range wider on this river by check/calling decent/good hands. Since Zig knows that Durr is unlikely to check anything decent here with only 1/3 PSB left on this river allowing him to bet very thin as seen in this hand. This would also get value from a potential bluff since Zig would likely put him allin on the turn with any made hand.

I have a really hard time understanding the flop and turn, its definitely not standard. But The river play by Zig isnt bad at all, he knows that he can only reasonable represent a straight and 1/3 PSB is going to give good odds so he bet and he gets a call from a weaker bluff catcher. Making this play to fold out AA or weak two pairish hands seems unlikely but not totally out of the question.

[iggymcfly]

I can't imagine durr check/folding two pair after the flush draw missed getting better than 4:1 on this money. That just doesn't make sense. Maybe if Zigmund put him exactly on AA + FD, he might think he could get a fold, but if he thought that was a large part of his range, then he wouldn't have called the turn.

Basically, Zigmund won't be calling close to pot-sized bets on the flop and turn with KK + BDFD and KK + gutshot, unless he perceives Durr's play as super, super LAG. If this is the case, then he's never going to try to bluff him off of two pair on this moderately scary but not ridiculously scary board. I really think he was making a super-thin value bet looking to get exactly the hero call that he got.

[luckyjimm]

Anyone pay much attention to how much he bets blockers, and how much importance he places in redraws before he stacks off? You could - if you were judging him by the standards he asks for, of being one of the best PLO players in the world - perhaps fault this hand in that regard:

Dealer: Hand #2544361351
Dealer: sbrugby posts the small blind of $200
Dealer: chewigirl posts the big blind of $400
Dealer: thecranium folds
Dealer: sbrugby raises to $1,200
Dealer: chewigirl calls $800
Dealer: The flop is [6d 4c Tc]
Dealer: sbrugby bets $2,000
Dealer: chewigirl calls $2,000
Dealer: The turn is [9s]
Dealer: sbrugby bets $5,800
Dealer: chewigirl raises to $16,400
Dealer: sbrugby raises to $55,600
Dealer: chewigirl calls $18,686, and is all in
Dealer: sbrugby shows [5h 7c Ad 8d]
Dealer: chewigirl shows [8h 7s Ac Jc]
Dealer: Uncalled bet of $20,514 returned to sbrugby
Dealer: The river is [4s]
Dealer: sbrugby shows a straight, Ten high
Dealer: chewigirl shows a straight, Ten high
Dealer: sbrugby ties for the pot ($38,285.50) with a
straight, Ten high
Dealer: chewigirl ties for the pot ($38,285.50) with a
straight, Ten high

.... though maybe he was just (potentially) unlucky that his opponent turned a much stronger hand, and lucky to catch a safe river.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2735079
pokenum -o 5h 7c ad 8d - 8h 7s ac jc -- 6d 4c tc 9s
Omaha Hi: 40 enumerated boards containing 9s Tc 4c 6d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7c Ad 8d 5h 0 0.00 14 35.00 26 65.00 0.325
7s Ac Jc 8h 14 35.00 0 0.00 26 65.00 0.675

[luckyjimm]

I think all these hands he lost today qualify as bad beats! Opponent is 20% or less to win on three of them when the money goes in. (The other hand I can't see one of the cards, problem with the hh)

"May 30, 2007

Running bad (Don't read if you don't want to see bad beats) Today was a very frustrating day. I ran so badly. In total I am stuck about 300K for the day, thought I am still playing on one table. It was just sickening some of the beats especially from my good friend Till_I_Collapse. This guy has run so sick good against me. Anyways enough of me bitching here are some hands.

Begin with the beats Till_I_Collapse put on me.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1132710

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1132712

Then Durr did some damage as well.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1132715

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1132725 "

[pete fabrizio]

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Anyone pay much attention to how much he bets blockers, and how much importance he places in redraws before he stacks off? You could - if you were judging him by the standards he asks for, of being one of the best PLO players in the world - perhaps fault this hand in that regard:

Dealer: Hand #2544361351
Dealer: sbrugby posts the small blind of $200
Dealer: chewigirl posts the big blind of $400
Dealer: thecranium folds
Dealer: sbrugby raises to $1,200
Dealer: chewigirl calls $800
Dealer: The flop is [6d 4c Tc]
Dealer: sbrugby bets $2,000
Dealer: chewigirl calls $2,000
Dealer: The turn is [9s]
Dealer: sbrugby bets $5,800
Dealer: chewigirl raises to $16,400
Dealer: sbrugby raises to $55,600
Dealer: chewigirl calls $18,686, and is all in
Dealer: sbrugby shows [5h 7c Ad 8d]
Dealer: chewigirl shows [8h 7s Ac Jc]
Dealer: Uncalled bet of $20,514 returned to sbrugby
Dealer: The river is [4s]
Dealer: sbrugby shows a straight, Ten high
Dealer: chewigirl shows a straight, Ten high
Dealer: sbrugby ties for the pot ($38,285.50) with a
straight, Ten high
Dealer: chewigirl ties for the pot ($38,285.50) with a
straight, Ten high

.... though maybe he was just (potentially) unlucky that his opponent turned a much stronger hand, and lucky to catch a safe river.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2735079
pokenum -o 5h 7c ad 8d - 8h 7s ac jc -- 6d 4c tc 9s
Omaha Hi: 40 enumerated boards containing 9s Tc 4c 6d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7c Ad 8d 5h 0 0.00 14 35.00 26 65.00 0.325
7s Ac Jc 8h 14 35.00 0 0.00 26 65.00 0.675

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Nothing wrong with his play here at all imo.

[luckyjimm]

I thought this one was played well by Sbrugby: betting his blockers on the turn, and knowing to shut down on the river:

Full Tilt Poker Game #2549715957: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha - 3:11:28 ET - 2007/05/31
Seat 1: chewigirl ($73,281)
Seat 2: Ziigmund ($85,869)
Seat 3: maxypaxy ($36,585)
Seat 4: Till_I_collapse ($43,591)
Seat 5: sbrugby ($104,621)
Seat 6: MissFabry ($248,710)
chewigirl posts the small blind of $200
Ziigmund posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
maxypaxy folds
Till_I_collapse folds
sbrugby has 15 seconds left to act
sbrugby raises to $1,400
MissFabry calls $1,400
chewigirl folds
Ziigmund folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc 8d Js]
sbrugby bets $3,000
MissFabry calls $3,000
*** TURN *** [Kc 8d Js] [Ah]
sbrugby bets $9,000
MissFabry calls $9,000
*** RIVER *** [Kc 8d Js Ah] [Jc]
sbrugby checks
MissFabry checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sbrugby shows [4c 7d Qs Qh] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
MissFabry shows [Tc Ad Ks 8s] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
MissFabry wins the pot ($27,397) with two pair, Aces and Kings
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $27,400 | Rake $3
Board: [Kc 8d Js Ah Jc]
Seat 1: chewigirl (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Ziigmund (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: maxypaxy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Till_I_collapse didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: sbrugby showed [4c 7d Qs Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 6: MissFabry (button) showed [Tc Ad Ks 8s] and won ($27,397) with two pair, Aces and Kings

[BluffTHIS!]

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Anyone pay much attention to how much he bets blockers, and how much importance he places in redraws before he stacks off? You could - if you were judging him by the standards he asks for, of being one of the best PLO players in the world - perhaps fault this hand in that regard:

Dealer: Hand #2544361351
Dealer: sbrugby posts the small blind of $200
Dealer: chewigirl posts the big blind of $400
Dealer: thecranium folds
Dealer: sbrugby raises to $1,200
Dealer: chewigirl calls $800
Dealer: The flop is [6d 4c Tc]
Dealer: sbrugby bets $2,000
Dealer: chewigirl calls $2,000
Dealer: The turn is [9s]
Dealer: sbrugby bets $5,800
Dealer: chewigirl raises to $16,400
Dealer: sbrugby raises to $55,600
Dealer: chewigirl calls $18,686, and is all in
Dealer: sbrugby shows [5h 7c Ad 8d]
Dealer: chewigirl shows [8h 7s Ac Jc]
Dealer: Uncalled bet of $20,514 returned to sbrugby
Dealer: The river is [4s]
Dealer: sbrugby shows a straight, Ten high
Dealer: chewigirl shows a straight, Ten high
Dealer: sbrugby ties for the pot ($38,285.50) with a
straight, Ten high
Dealer: chewigirl ties for the pot ($38,285.50) with a
straight, Ten high

.... though maybe he was just (potentially) unlucky that his opponent turned a much stronger hand, and lucky to catch a safe river.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2735079
pokenum -o 5h 7c ad 8d - 8h 7s ac jc -- 6d 4c tc 9s
Omaha Hi: 40 enumerated boards containing 9s Tc 4c 6d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7c Ad 8d 5h 0 0.00 14 35.00 26 65.00 0.325
7s Ac Jc 8h 14 35.00 0 0.00 26 65.00 0.675

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Nothing wrong with his play here at all imo.

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If you mean with chewigirl's line I agree. A very good example of the use of a smaller raise than a full one to get set in when freerolling, instead of a minraise that would set off alarm bells. Of course that is assuming aba would hear the bells and care if he did.