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Old 05-10-2007, 11:50 AM
nextgenneo nextgenneo is offline
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No offence, but it's pretty funny how all these 2p2'ers are firing the river...but they don't know why! I've yet to see more than one ot two good examples of this range merging thing yet..

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well you're a nit so you never get to the river with less than the nuts
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:54 AM
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No offence, but it's pretty funny how all these 2p2'ers are firing the river...but they don't know why! I've yet to see more than one ot two good examples of this range merging thing yet..

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hu?
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: valuebluff, rangemerging whatever the fk

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No offence, but it's pretty funny how all these 2p2'ers are firing the river...but they don't know why! I've yet to see more than one ot two good examples of this range merging thing yet..

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Its more common to see it at high stakes HU poker, hence the reason why it's so fashionable to discuss it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:58 AM
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snipes is a str8 up ngga hu.
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Old 05-10-2007, 12:03 PM
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snipes is a str8 up ngga hu.

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ah, he meant heads up? i assumed it was a typo of huh. do you know what i mean though? i'm not saying it's a bad play neccessarily, but at least know what you're trying to do when you bet...this is a straight up bluff. there's been a few recently too which were clear value bets, nothing to do with range merging at all. But if people think it's cool and wanna talk bout it, then fair enough..
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Old 05-10-2007, 12:53 PM
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I think this is good with KJ
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Old 05-10-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: valuebluff, rangemerging whatever the fk

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snipes is a str8 up ngga hu.

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ah, he meant heads up? i assumed it was a typo of huh. do you know what i mean though? i'm not saying it's a bad play neccessarily, but at least know what you're trying to do when you bet...this is a straight up bluff. there's been a few recently too which were clear value bets, nothing to do with range merging at all. But if people think it's cool and wanna talk bout it, then fair enough..

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ya i agree, i was just joking w/ the HU comment. it is def a bluff.

in most of these discussions we've pretty much reached the point that an actual valuebluff doesn't really exist-thus, it is either a value bet or a bluff.

i think this opponent is definitely capable of calling w/ 88 here but that also means he is never folding Ax and sometimes folding Jx. i agree with you though, it is a bluff, and agains this opponent i should probably check it down bc when river goes c/c i am def good a large % of the time that he has middle pp or whatnot but when it goes check/call he is going to have me beat almost always.
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:02 PM
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the bets on the turn and river here are putrid, but given that you did fire fourth I suppose you have to continue on the end... we can remove all consideration of value from the equation though

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just to backtrack a bit...betting the turn is putrid? lmao
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: valuebluff, rangemerging whatever the fk

I think its value with QJ JK, bluff with less

always bet turn

3 barreling is def good here sometimes, depending on reads/image/flow etc
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: valuebluff, rangemerging whatever the fk

with rangmerging it has to be a really thin bet that it could possibly fold out better and get called by worse given a lack of information on opponents ranges. I dont see how this could ever be for value given info..so I dislike it.
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