AQ preflop play

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Can some other people join this convesation? I think I am disliked by all regular 2+2 winners, becuase you NEVER respond to my threads [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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wtf? yeah im a reg 2p2 loser at 1/2....ok..

[ronitonline]

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You cant tell me he is going to call me with any bit of the gray area of a nits range and at the same time tell me 3betting his UTG raise is just a bad idea.
Those 2 just dont go together, that isnt the same player.

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Of the five hands you listed (JJ,QQ,KK,AA,AK) if he calls you with ANY of them he is AHEAD of you......sure you have position, but you would be up against a very premium range

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If villian is tight enough to only raise those 5 hands preflop, he is folding JJ/AK almost everytime IMO.
He might even fold QQ sometimes.

A player with that narrow of a range UTG is not calling a huge 3bet pf with JJ/AK OOP and he probably wont push with those either knowing hes not getting called by anything worse.

[ronitonline]

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20/10 isn't nit.

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Where does your legit nit range start?

[dregal]

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20/10 isn't nit.

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Where does your legit nit range start?

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I don;t want to speak for Jay, but I assume he is referring to the fact that villains plays 20% of his hands, which isnt a ridic small amount. However he plays a lot of those hands in a passive manner pf (limping/calling riases).

[Jay Riall]

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20/10 isn't nit.

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Where does your legit nit range start?

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Dno, but hes not nitty enough to not raise/fold to his shove here with all the dead money in the pot.

[Weatherhead03]

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20/10 isn't nit.

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Where does your legit nit range start?

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15/13 or something along those lines.

[dregal]

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20/10 isn't nit.

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Where does your legit nit range start?

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Dno, but hes not nitty enough to not raise/fold to his shove here with all the dead money in the pot.

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Hmmm I cant get copy/paste to work on my PStove, but against a range of 1010-AA, AKs, AKo we are ~ 30% to win.

If UTG shoves and all else fold, we are calling $77 to win $207 --> 77/207 = .37 or 37%.

So unless I am doing some math wrong (entirely possbile) or you disagree with my range, I think we have to fold if he shoves.

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Where did I say call his shove?

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Where did I say call his shove?

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LOL you used one too many "not's" in your post and tricked my brain!

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dregal ur pokerstove is almost pointless because #1 we fold to his shove, #2
he isnt shoving anything but KK/AA/QQ and MAYBE MAYBE AK but I dont even think he is shoving AK.